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Post by NLSP on 2013-12-02, 22:34

since JdlF is such a brilliant CP candidate, could he please tell our population how he is going to work out the following points of his program?


*) "loan facilities would be openned for training contracts."
=> if you are level 25: you can take up a loan already ( up to 40 gold), so he is going to stop this, just in order that he can open a loan?

*) "earn more with higer wages"
=> the government is going to fix the wages? How ?

*) "programs would remain as long as the state can afford. I would be elected, citizen pack would be a priority with education budget. BYS would be stopped"
=> how the programs remain while you stop them ?

*) "more easily loans to training centers"
=> meaning what? if you are above level 25, simple procedure to get a loan for TC, if you aren't, the CP, MoF and your MU Commander should agree with it. How do you want to make this more easy?

*) "A future where everyone can have fun. Where everyone can get help from the government."
=> Does it involve singing Kumbayah along the campfire?

*) "citizens get money from them (Training Centers) on the long run."
=> really? I still have put more money in Training Centers than that I got out of it. How much longer do I need to wait?

Also, during his last term he run away without previous notice for the last quarter. How much will he be absent this time? Half his term?
If his 'referendum' says that eBe needs to be freed or needs to stay wiped, would he be monitoring battles? How much effort would he personally do to ensure the desired outcome? What would this exactly be?
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Re: Some general questions towards JdlF

Post by Boklevski on 2013-12-02, 22:57

Obviously, I'll let JdlF answer the questions. But there's one I just have to react on:
NLSP wrote:*) "citizens get money from them (Training Centers) on the long run."
=> really? I still have put more money in Training Centers than that I got out of it. How much longer do I need to wait?
Ask Yannis.

She can do math, so she'll explain to you.

Here's one of her pro-tips: http://www.erepbelgium.com/t10051-too-much-gold#203068
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Re: Some general questions towards JdlF

Post by NLSP on 2013-12-02, 23:01

Boklevski wrote:Obviously, I'll let JdlF answer the questions. But there's one I just have to react on:
NLSP wrote:*) "citizens get money from them (Training Centers) on the long run."
=> really? I still have put more money in Training Centers than that I got out of it. How much longer do I need to wait?
Ask Yannis.

She can do math, so she'll explain to you.

Here's one of her pro-tips: http://www.erepbelgium.com/t10051-too-much-gold#203068
so no, training centers don't make you money, however if you limit yourself and don't use all training centers you can ...
Statement 'citizens get money from them on the long run.' is false, statement 'if you don't want to strengthen up, you can in certain cases when you limit yourself make money with the training centers' is correct.
so you see: false vs. correct
and I can also do math, you don't have to worry ...
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Re: Some general questions towards JdlF

Post by Fhaemita Malodorous on 2013-12-03, 13:48


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Re: Some general questions towards JdlF

Post by JdlF on 2013-12-03, 14:20

Yeah didn't find this topic yet.

Note that you could have sent me a pm or something.

Thank you for the questions, i'll answer them in my q/a article tonight Smile.
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Re: Some general questions towards JdlF

Post by Yannis on 2013-12-03, 17:17

NLSP wrote:
Boklevski wrote:Obviously, I'll let JdlF answer the questions. But there's one I just have to react on:
NLSP wrote:*) "citizens get money from them (Training Centers) on the long run."
=> really? I still have put more money in Training Centers than that I got out of it. How much longer do I need to wait?
Ask Yannis.

She can do math, so she'll explain to you.

Here's one of her pro-tips: http://www.erepbelgium.com/t10051-too-much-gold#203068
so no, training centers don't make you money, however if you limit yourself and don't use all training centers you can ...
Statement 'citizens get money from them on the long run.' is false, statement 'if you don't want to strengthen up, you can in certain cases when you limit yourself make money with the training centers' is correct.
so you see: false vs. correct
and I can also do math, you don't have to worry ...
Yay, I'm considered an expert! :DNow please blow yourself up, it's good for your health! Yes it is! Trust me I'm an expert Cool 

Won't answer for JdlF but NLSP that's only approaching the matter from one point of view. JdlF never said that using "ALL" training centers is profitable. You see using all training centers as first prio before gold. However that pov is only useful to people having a big big capital of gold already or large income (=older players normally) or gold-buyers. Else it is hardly sustainable.

And it would surprise me if you don't agree with me that in the long runyou better go for the minimal costs so that you can accumulate enough gold to buy upgrades and thus being able to train more in a sustainable way, instead of spending your gold in "Special all TC days" with less upgraded TC's (=str/cost way weaker). Unless you're MasterCard doesn't care paying Plato's holidays, of course.
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Re: Some general questions towards JdlF

Post by NLSP on 2013-12-03, 23:18

I'm definitely a fan of an individualised approach, that determines where for every person separately what the smartest strategy is and I have defended that different people have a different point of view. I am not the person that requested that all people follow one rigid scheme of updating TC ...

Secondly, JdlF is making a general statement "citizens get money in the long run", that general statement is wrong. There are many counter examples that show this. He had to make a more specific statement if he wouldn't want to tell lies. Furthermore, many people would interpret 'in the long run' as "when you updated all your training centres" and then this statement is an complete lie.
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Re: Some general questions towards JdlF

Post by JdlF on 2013-12-03, 23:34

Furthermore, many people would interpret 'in the long run' as "when you updated all your training centres" and then this statement is an complete lie.
Not really a lie in fact, but I answered here: http://www.erepublik.com/fr/article/jdlf-questions-amp-answers-2348418/1/20

Still it would be more risky than wr4/cc4. But you could also have all TC level 4 and only use the two first, winning gold and cc on the long run (and that would not be stupid if you can't afford a training contract from time to time).

I can be wrong and as you pointed some things out i will look over them more carrefully when working on the subject. So thank you for your considerations and your worries.
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Re: Some general questions towards JdlF

Post by NLSP on 2013-12-03, 23:44

you are wrong on a lot of things and I find it astonishing how you blame Tony Clifford for the attack from eUK (while he opposed the airstrike that provoke the eUK attack) and steal away the credit from MaryamQ for negotiation and repairing the relations with eUK.


Honestly, have you been smoking something? if so, what is it? you should stop it, it is making you delusional.
If you aren't, are you getting excited by telling lies?
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Re: Some general questions towards JdlF

Post by JdlF on 2013-12-04, 00:22

Hi, as I've said I made few mistakes in the answers and thanks to you I corrected them.

Thank you for taking so many time correcting me.
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Re: Some general questions towards JdlF

Post by NLSP on 2013-12-04, 00:46

mistakes or planned lies that you hoped nobody would notice?

NLSP wrote:you smeared Tony Clifford's reputation with lies!
JdlF wrote:I don't think most know TC was my MoFA.

Truth is stronger than lies!
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