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Local Elections in Belgium

Post by NLSP on 2012-10-14, 22:45

anyone that would like to vent his/her joy and/or frustration feel free to do so Smile


Personally I'm getting pissed like hell that in my home-town the apparently broke 2 usb-sticks and they have to recount the last 1800 votes, this while there is only a difference of 111 votes between the 2 biggest parties ...

So, I'm waiting and waiting until they publish the results from these last 1800 votes and I want to smash the persons responsible for this to the wall until their skull bursts...
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by tecuvo on 2012-10-14, 23:02

well, i woke up at 7h30, to vote at 8 when the voting started, and it finally started at 8h45. Mad
guess what, it were al woman who had to arrange everything in the poll
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Viridi on 2012-10-14, 23:03

I heard that voting is mandatory in Belgium.

It's the opposite here. It seems like nobody votes in the USA.
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by NLSP on 2012-10-14, 23:52

tecuvo wrote:well, i woke up at 7h30, to vote at 8 when the voting started, and it finally started at 8h45. Mad
guess what, it were al woman who had to arrange everything in the poll
it is not a miracle they break USB-sticks then Razz

Viridi wrote:I heard that voting is mandatory in Belgium.
It is Smile
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by RayCaptain on 2012-10-15, 04:20

So what happens if you don't vote... Small fine?
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Olv007 on 2012-10-15, 07:01

If you don't vote you will get a fine... normally. But one of our ministers (Turtelboom... ) said they will not be able this year to do so.

Anyway I was assessor all day yesterday. Had to be there before 7:00 AM and since all the others had better excuses than me I had to stay. All by all it was a nice day as it was accepted that we could get a beer from time to time, paid by the electors Wink Vote finished at 3:00 PM and we had to wait one hour more until they could transfer the vote results from the USB stick to the Brussels servers. At 4:00 PM they were still not able to transfer then but since all other assessors complains the mayor accepted that everybody could go home but had to leave their phone number behind just in case of...

We will receive 25 euro on our bank account for that day and the mayor himself gave a vouche of 25 euro that we can use in any shop in the town I live.

Anyway, here are some numbers for those interested about what happen in our office:

Total people that had to vote: 865
Total people that voted: 826
Total people sick: 22
Total people that didn't showed up: 17
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by NLSP on 2012-10-15, 07:03

Olv, did you also get breakfast?
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Olv007 on 2012-10-15, 07:35

In the morning we got breakfast and coffee.

At noon 2 club sandwiches

And in the afternoon a dessert

And every hour someone passed to take the orders for drinks Wink
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by NLSP on 2012-10-15, 08:38

oh, well I hoped you enjoyed it and I'm glad you didn't had to stay until all results were given to brussels Smile
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by AndreasC on 2012-10-15, 10:08

They never give fines if you don't show up, because it's too low priority.
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by NLSP on 2012-10-15, 10:17

but they can, in theory, take away your political rights if you don't show up for like 5 years

(not that they actually care about it or do it Razz )
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by cliffie on 2012-10-15, 10:59

Olv007 wrote:
We will receive 25 euro on our bank account for that day and the mayor himself gave a vouche of 25 euro that we can use in any shop in the town I live.

Anyway, here are some numbers for those interested about what happen in our office:

Total people that had to vote: 865
Total people that voted: 826
Total people sick: 22
Total people that didn't showed up: 17

Only 25 euros for one day of work?
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by NLSP on 2012-10-15, 11:04

and breakfast Wink
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Kaad94 on 2012-10-15, 12:23

Case of my city: the right party won with 38% but center and left (50.90% together) anounced before the election their wishes to be together again...
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Nohjis on 2012-10-15, 12:45

cliffie wrote:
Only 25 euros for one day of work?

I received only 20 or so a couple of years ago. Razz

The good part is the breakfast, lunch and other extras during the day and then some spending time with neighbours you may not have known yet. Wink

For my part, rather unhappy with the results in my hometown, but sadly natural disasters that happen at the wrong time can have the wrong results and remove focus from the work that has been done.
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by cliffie on 2012-10-15, 12:51

Nohjis wrote:
cliffie wrote:
Only 25 euros for one day of work?

I received only 20 or so a couple of years ago. Razz

The good part is the breakfast, lunch and other extras during the day and then some spending time with neighbours you may not have known yet. Wink

For my part, rather unhappy with the results in my hometown, but sadly natural disasters that happen at the wrong time can have the wrong results and remove focus from the work that has been done.

Here we get 120 euros. For two days (7-23 Sunday, 6-18 Monday). But no food.
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by NLSP on 2012-10-15, 12:52

well, I'm personally only happy with the results in my home town and my university town. For the rest, it is really bad Sad (oh, with the exception of PVDA+ having more votes than open vld :p )

@cliffie: but the food is the most important thing Smile
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by RayCaptain on 2012-10-15, 14:05

European politics really confuses me sometimes. You guys switch up what "Liberal" and "Conservative" is a lot... Plus what is 'right-wing' or 'left-wing' for America is definitely not the same in Europe -.-
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by NLSP on 2012-10-15, 14:37

yep, these terms have a different meaning in different places Smile
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Stijn Puttemans on 2012-10-15, 16:01

Kaad94 wrote:Case of my city: the right party won with 38% but center and left (50.90% together) anounced before the election their wishes to be together again...

Typical belgium: one party wins the elections, but the losers join together to make a government.
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by NLSP on 2012-10-15, 16:26

well there is nothing wrong with that, it is democracy on its most beautiful way Smile

(and all parties does it Razz )
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by MCKitkat on 2012-10-15, 16:31

Stijn Puttemans wrote:
Kaad94 wrote:Case of my city: the right party won with 38% but center and left (50.90% together) anounced before the election their wishes to be together again...

Typical belgium: one party wins the elections, but the losers join together to make a government.


It's often like this.
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by cooke4444 on 2012-10-15, 16:41

Why the hell did the first debate turn to the national elections of 2014?!

Just wanted to beat those RL PP's with bricks in their face Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Backwards on 2012-10-15, 16:42

NLSP wrote:
Viridi wrote:I heard that voting is mandatory in Belgium.
It is Smile

It isn't. There is a compulsory attendance, but you don't actually have to vote. It would just be an invalid vote/blank vote.
Although I think the law states you have to be in the voting booth for the reasonable time it takes to put out a vote.

In other words... Sleep

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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by NLSP on 2012-10-15, 16:46

cooke4444 wrote:Why the hell did the first debate turn to the national elections of 2014?!

Just wanted to beat those RL PP's with bricks in their face Evil or Very Mad
nobody stopped you from doing that ...
you can still go for it Razz
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Procuste on 2012-10-15, 18:44

Stijn Puttemans wrote:
Kaad94 wrote:Case of my city: the right party won with 38% but center and left (50.90% together) anounced before the election their wishes to be together again...

Typical belgium: one party wins the elections, but the losers join together to make a government.

Yup, that's what happened in the city I'm living in. The list who won the most votes has lost to a union between different parties. When you come from a binary system as I do, that's mind boggling. Wink

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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Stijn Puttemans on 2012-10-15, 20:00

Procuste wrote:
Stijn Puttemans wrote:
Kaad94 wrote:Case of my city: the right party won with 38% but center and left (50.90% together) anounced before the election their wishes to be together again...

Typical belgium: one party wins the elections, but the losers join together to make a government.

Yup, that's what happened in the city I'm living in. The list who won the most votes has lost to a union between different parties. When you come from a binary system as I do, that's mind boggling. Wink

Look at Kortrijk => Quickie took De Clerck from behind!!!!
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by tecuvo on 2012-10-15, 20:07

In my town, "the cowboy" is still mayor lol!

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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by cooke4444 on 2012-10-15, 20:10

Stijn Puttemans wrote:

Look at Kortrijk => Quickie took De Clerck from behind!!!!

I do NOT want to see that
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by NLSP on 2012-10-15, 20:49

Stijn Puttemans wrote:Look at Kortrijk => Quickie took De Clerck from behind!!!!
I just love it when a tjeef has been put on his place with a tjeventruc Razz
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Stijn Puttemans on 2012-10-15, 21:58

precies gene tjeven fan Very Happy
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by NLSP on 2012-10-15, 22:13

you got me Razz
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by goopypants on 2012-10-15, 22:24

Typical belgium: one party wins the elections, but the losers join together to make a government.

so exactly like here?
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by RayCaptain on 2012-10-15, 23:40

Foreigners Suspect

...Well... Technically I'm the foreigner... But you get the idea >_>
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Procuste on 2012-10-16, 07:09

goopypants wrote:
Typical belgium: one party wins the elections, but the losers join together to make a government.

so exactly like here?

Welcome in eBelgium, just like the real stuff ! Laughing

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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Helviro on 2012-10-22, 11:40

As some of you know, I'm into RL politics, so the reason of my limited activity was to campaign for another term of 6 years, as city counsil member.

Good news: we only lost one seat
Bad news: it was mine.

With just 56 votes short, I'm not reelected.
Bye politics for now, or it should be that something unexpected comes along.
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by boer jan on 2012-10-22, 11:52

sorry to hear that, so close.....
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by MaryamQ on 2012-10-22, 12:34

That is sad to hear, Helviro. I hope something does come along for you, if you want it.
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Director9 on 2012-10-22, 12:50

Stijn Puttemans wrote:

Typical belgium: one party wins the elections, but the losers join together to make a government.

It should be : one party wins the elections, but the OTHER losers join together to make a government.
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Helviro on 2012-10-22, 13:59

tnx, guys, over here they say "andere en betere", meaning, other things and better.
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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by Procuste on 2012-10-22, 18:09

Sorry for you Helviro. Neutral

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Re: Local Elections in Belgium

Post by cooke4444 on 2012-10-22, 18:12

Director9 wrote:
Stijn Puttemans wrote:

Typical belgium: one party wins the elections, but the losers join together to make a government.

It should be : one party wins the elections, but the OTHER losers join together to make a government.

I so wished this was the case in my town, previous politicians f*cked it all up, one of the parties "stops" => all go to NVA, result: same parties in coalition + CD&V. I really started hating CD&V for doing that.
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