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Post by goopypants on 2012-10-20, 00:56

Since a CP candidate that people can unite behind may solve some of the eBelgian funk, and maybe legitimate choices between candidates with real platforms may help, or at least the ability to discuss possible candidates more than 2 days before the election may be a good thing,

starting this thread for people to indicate if they are going to run as CP in November.

Yes, the classic eBelgian move is to wait until the last minute to declare your candidacy, like some sort of CP ninja, but then we end up with a race like Shadow vs. NLSP, with no real choices.

So step forward. Or step off.

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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-10-20, 01:39

I'm tempted to run.
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Re: CP November

Post by Kylero on 2012-10-20, 04:28

I'm running. I will present a robust platform with actual goals and objectives, along with brand new, innovative ideas that will add some spice for us older/seasoned players for a change.
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Re: CP November

Post by SX80 on 2012-10-20, 10:12

Goodluck to any candidate, honestly Smile
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Re: CP November

Post by Stijn Puttemans on 2012-10-20, 19:00

Kylero wrote:I'm running. I will present a robust platform with actual goals and objectives, along with brand new, innovative ideas that will add some spice for us older/seasoned players for a change.
I'm looking forward to read your presentation
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Re: CP November

Post by RayCaptain on 2012-10-21, 05:16

Stijn Puttemans wrote:I'm looking forward to read your presentation

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Re: CP November

Post by DaJoXTeR on 2012-10-26, 15:09

im availble. Razz

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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-10-26, 18:49

I'm officially running, as Res Belgica has decided to support me. Smile
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Re: CP November

Post by tommot on 2012-10-26, 19:14

Kylero or Lily?

Damn that's hard.
But there's still time.

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Re: CP November

Post by SX80 on 2012-10-26, 19:38

Programs, points, presentations, tell me the magic albino you have hidden in your hats to make this game fun again Smile
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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-10-29, 14:28

And the race is on.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-lily-running-for-cp-2147185/1/20
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Re: CP November

Post by tommot on 2012-10-29, 15:19

Nice Smile
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Re: CP November

Post by Olv007 on 2012-10-29, 21:24

I would have support Lily but since RB didn't gave a sh* about us asking their help during the previous congress elections my vote will certainly go to someone else.
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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-10-29, 22:10

Olv007 wrote:I would have support Lily but since RB didn't gave a sh* about us asking their help during the previous congress elections my vote will certainly go to someone else.

Let's not make it partisan. I could go on about RB did try and help but that's irrelevant. RB may be supporting me, but I'm a separate candidate.

Vote for me, not the party.
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Re: CP November

Post by Olv007 on 2012-10-30, 06:35

Change from party then.
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Re: CP November

Post by cliffie on 2012-10-30, 13:09

Lily Jayne Summers wrote:
Olv007 wrote:I would have support Lily but since RB didn't gave a sh* about us asking their help during the previous congress elections my vote will certainly go to someone else.

Let's not make it partisan. I could go on about RB did try and help but that's irrelevant. RB may be supporting me, but I'm a separate candidate.

Vote for me, not the party.

Country President candidates are chosen by their respective Party Presidents. So you can't be a separate candidate.
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Re: CP November

Post by tommot on 2012-10-30, 14:18

A candidate can be in any party, i would still vote for the person and not the party(whatever that party is).

I'll keep my problems with other party's for the congress-elections.

Just for the record: My fiath in the RB is somewhat damaged. They will have to put in some extra effords in regaining some trust in there ability's again.

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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-10-30, 14:41

If I was in another party would it change things?
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Post by tommot on 2012-10-30, 15:02

Not for me.
In CP-elections i focus on the person and a lot less to the party in witch the candidate resides.

Personaly i have my doubth between you and kylero(if he applies).
But as Party President i will have to way my descicion based on the input from my fellow party-members. My oppinion is in that case secundary and maybe even irrelevant(depending on what the input of the other members are).

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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-10-30, 15:05

tommot wrote:Not for me.
In CP-elections i focus on the person and a lot less to the party in witch the candidate resides.

I hope so.
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Re: CP November

Post by Olv007 on 2012-10-30, 17:02

As I am in a very anti-RB mood it really matter to me in what party you are in now.
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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-10-30, 17:13

Olv007 wrote:As I am in a very anti-RB mood it really matter to me in what party you are in now.

I'll be rather sad if you voted against me, not because of my manifesto, not because of my plans, but solely on my party.

Let's not make it partisan.
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Post by Fhaemita Malodorous on 2012-10-30, 17:54

Lily Jayne Summers wrote:I'll be rather sad if you voted against me, not because of my manifesto, not because of my plans, but solely on my party.

Nothing new those kind of things happening in eBelgium Rolling Eyes

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Re: CP November

Post by BrunoCND on 2012-10-30, 18:10

Lily if you need my party is open to you Wink
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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-01, 05:39

I find it quite funny that Kylero is talking about voting for "Real change" yet you've ran for CP 7 times and been in eRepublik since 2009.

That's hypocrisy, no?
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Post by Jofroi on 2012-11-01, 06:59

Lily Jayne Summers wrote:I find it quite funny that Kylero is talking about voting for "Real change" yet you've ran for CP 7 times and been in eRepublik since 2009.

That's hypocrisy, no?

As he never won, we can easily consider that he was running against the "running elite" as he calls it. This is not really hypocrisy imo.

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Re: CP November

Post by p0lluxx on 2012-11-01, 13:13

Lily Jayne Summers wrote:I'm tempted to run.

http://egov4you.info/citizen/history/5225140

Semi-afk CP ?
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Post by tommot on 2012-11-01, 13:47

p0lluxx: I don't understand what you are trying to say? "Semi-afk"???
Those graphs are saying more about military activity then it says something about political activity.

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Post by Fhaemita Malodorous on 2012-11-01, 14:08

tommot wrote:p0lluxx: I don't understand what you are trying to say? "Semi-afk"???
Those graphs are saying more about military activity then it says something about political activity.

In my not so humble opinion it says enough enough, the graph does not only state military activity but also xp gained and if a person trained. Out of the last 30 days there is one 1 that she was (semi)active and gained 39 xp and trained and 3 days she gained 5 xp. It shows a total lack of interest in erep if you cant even work/train every day. How should such a person be a good president with such an record of inactivity and disinterest? To me it just looks like she wants the medal before she quits.


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Re: CP November

Post by Kylero on 2012-11-01, 14:09

And it starts with the half truths accepted as truth. Yes ive ran 7 times, but theres context to tgose runs such as being a viable fallback (impeachment).
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Post by boer jan on 2012-11-01, 14:47

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
tommot wrote:p0lluxx: I don't understand what you are trying to say? "Semi-afk"???
Those graphs are saying more about military activity then it says something about political activity.

In my not so humble opinion it says enough enough, the graph does not only state military activity but also xp gained and if a person trained. Out of the last 30 days there is one 1 that she was (semi)active and gained 39 xp and trained and 3 days she gained 5 xp. It shows a total lack of interest in erep if you cant even work/train every day. How should such a person be a good president with such an record of inactivity and disinterest? To me it just looks like she wants the medal before she quits.

not everybody plays this game as warrior, some do it just for the politics, others for the media.
we surely can say that Lily jayne is always there the welcome section, debate section, she follows every word said, besides we had candidates who were not even member of a eBe MU and nobody talked about that while that is worse
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Post by Fhaemita Malodorous on 2012-11-01, 14:59

boer jan wrote:not everybody plays this game as warrior, some do it just for the politics, others for the media. we surely can say that Lily jayne is always there the welcome section, debate section, she follows every word said, besides we had candidates who were not even member of a eBe MU and nobody talked about that while that is worse

You might want to reread my post, like I pointed out I wasn't talking about military activity but activity in general ingame. You get xp for working and training, and only 5 out of 30 days she gained xp meaning she doesn't even bother to two click (work/train).

I think it is concerning a CP who doesn't even bother to two click. You can say she is very active on the forum (not making a judgement about this because I cant see the full forum) but ingame activity is just as important and she doesn't do well in that aspect. imho it would be a new lowpoint for Belgium (after selling the CP medal, and electing a two clicker as CP) if we appoint a president who doesn't bother with ingame activity.

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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-01, 15:23

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
boer jan wrote:not everybody plays this game as warrior, some do it just for the politics, others for the media. we surely can say that Lily jayne is always there the welcome section, debate section, she follows every word said, besides we had candidates who were not even member of a eBe MU and nobody talked about that while that is worse

You might want to reread my post, like I pointed out I wasn't talking about military activity but activity in general ingame. You get xp for working and training, and only 5 out of 30 days she gained xp meaning she doesn't even bother to two click (work/train).

I think it is concerning a CP who doesn't even bother to two click. You can say she is very active on the forum (not making a judgement about this because I cant see the full forum) but ingame activity is just as important and she doesn't do well in that aspect. imho it would be a new lowpoint for Belgium (after selling the CP medal, and electing a two clicker as CP) if we appoint a president who doesn't bother with ingame activity.

"She is very active on the forum" There you go then. I may not train, but I'm active in game and on the forums and that's the most important thing.

Also, adding to the fact I've been the MoFA x4 and the vCP x1 one here, and I'm apparently I'm still not active?
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Re: CP November

Post by Requiem Domine on 2012-11-01, 16:49

I accidentally happened upon that thread, but I would like to say the following:
Lily, you exaggerate a lot about your activity. You tend to say "I've been the [insert position] [number of times] and [insert position] [number of times] here, so I am active". Your argument makes no sense. Excuse me, but Mudduck served as vCP and MoFA under Goopy, but was he active? No, he was not. What follows from this?
It matters what you do, while being a Minister. For several reasons (imo ofc), you are doing poor in the last month. Considering the fact you was not part of Nohjis' government, that makes two months in a row. I can add more arguments to my thesis if necessary.
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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-01, 16:59

Requiem Domine wrote:I accidentally happened upon that thread, but I would like to say the following:
Lily, you exaggerate a lot about your activity. You tend to say "I've been the [insert position] [number of times] and [insert position] [number of times] here, so I am active". Your argument makes no sense. Excuse me, but Mudduck served as vCP and MoFA under Goopy, but was he active? No, he was not. What follows from this?
It matters what you do, while being a Minister. For several reasons (imo ofc), you are doing poor in the last month. Considering the fact you was not part of Nohjis' government, that makes two months in a row. I can add more arguments to my thesis if necessary.

You call me poor, yet you made me your vCP and MoFA.

On the issue of Nohjis' government, we both said that we would be in each others government. I didn't push to be in his government, because losing by 2 votes makes you rather sad.
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Re: CP November

Post by p0lluxx on 2012-11-01, 17:42

I'm not against You LJS, but facts are there. You aren't active in the millitary module? I can understand. But train/work is not really about the millitary. It's just 3 clicks every day, that you did only 5 days in the last month. And i totaly agree with Fhae with that !
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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-01, 17:48

Requiem Domine wrote:I accidentally happened upon that thread, but I would like to say the following:
Lily, you exaggerate a lot about your activity. You tend to say "I've been the [insert position] [number of times] and [insert position] [number of times] here, so I am active". Your argument makes no sense. Excuse me, but Mudduck served as vCP and MoFA under Goopy, but was he active? No, he was not. What follows from this?
It matters what you do, while being a Minister. For several reasons (imo ofc), you are doing poor in the last month. Considering the fact you was not part of Nohjis' government, that makes two months in a row. I can add more arguments to my thesis if necessary.

Hey Requiem, can securing a TW be viewed as failure?

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Re: CP November

Post by Requiem Domine on 2012-11-01, 19:00

Lily, do I have to reveal what an "amazing" effort you put as vCP and MoFA during my term? I will just leave this here - I asked you to do only one thing - to negotiate the Spanish MPP... but we didn't get an answer until I did it by my own. Draw your conclusion.

Also, if I was you, I would not put my name among those, who get credit for the TW - did you take part in after all? For the first two weeks of NLSP's term, you did not. Do I have to say you try not to talk to Kravenn, because you do not like him (TUP-ESO issues)?
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Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-01, 23:51

Requiem Domine wrote:Lily, do I have to reveal what an "amazing" effort you put as vCP and MoFA during my term? I will just leave this here - I asked you to do only one thing - to negotiate the Spanish MPP... but we didn't get an answer until I did it by my own. Draw your conclusion.

Also, if I was you, I would not put my name among those, who get credit for the TW - did you take part in after all? For the first two weeks of NLSP's term, you did not. Do I have to say you try not to talk to Kravenn, because you do not like him (TUP-ESO issues)?

IIko, please move on and grow up.
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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-01, 23:52

If anyone wishes to ask me a question or want to know certain policies, just send me a PM!

I'll be publishing another manifesto tomorrow. Smile
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Re: CP November

Post by Kylero on 2012-11-02, 00:59

I have to agree with Fhaemita (yikes!), pollux, and Requiem. You need to be active in the actual game.

Lily, how many articles have you written (in your newspaper) in eBelgium that discuss something other than vote pandering? I count zero. An entertaining media is good for eBelgium as it can snowball into increased activity (see Cooke4444).
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Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-02, 01:05

Kylero wrote:I have to agree with Fhaemita (yikes!), pollux, and Requiem. You need to be active in the actual game.

Lily, how many articles have you written (in your newspaper) in eBelgium that discuss something other than vote pandering? I count zero. An entertaining media is good for eBelgium as it can snowball into increased activity (see Cooke4444).

I am active ingame? I just don't fight or train everyday. If you was actually active on the irc, you would realise that. I'm active on the irc and therefore I'm active ingame.

Eh? I have 5 pages of articles?

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/an-interview-with-chew-chew-shoe-former-irish-cp--2003295/1/20

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/an-interview-with-marcus-suridius-irish-cp-candidate--1999955/1/20

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/an-interview-with-the-godfather-irish-cp-candidate--2000597/1/20

Those articles are hardly vote pandering, no?
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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-02, 01:07

Hey Kylero, you ran for CP so many times, you made 2 of the exact same articles by a years difference.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november--1893779/1/20

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november-1-2147588/1/20
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Post by Kylero on 2012-11-02, 01:10

Childish.

btw, I said in eBelgium Rolling Eyes
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Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-02, 01:16

Kylero wrote:Childish.

btw, I said in eBelgium Rolling Eyes

Childish? From the guy who calls me insulting words because I came from the UK? And apparently I'm here to loot your treasury? (Despite the fact I've never ever receive any citizens packs or benefits)

Does that exclude all the Belgians that go to the UK too? Nohjis, MaryamQ, Viridi, Mittekemuis?

You're the guy who is childish, not me.

Come back when you have some policies.
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Re: CP November

Post by Kylero on 2012-11-02, 01:28

Oh Lily...
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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-02, 01:32

Kylero wrote:Oh Lily...
Pill

I'm sorry, Kylero, but I don't see you produce any policies at all. Except from killing multis.

Instead, you have to make up lies, instead of actual policies of what you would do as CP.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/smash-the-deciding-elite-2148177/1/20

You call me inactive, yet I'm active most of the day on the irc. If I'm active on the irc, why wouldn't be active ingame?
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Re: CP November

Post by Kylero on 2012-11-02, 01:41

You do realize that IRC is not in-game right?

And I guess I may be wrong about you in some respects. I don't think you are here to steal wealth in the form of free weapons and such. Apparently you don't fight, so you're good there. But what I do think you are doing is using eBelgium as a means for political power because its easier than the UK. And with this power, it can be inferred that you will keep the status quo of redistribution to your eBrit friends.
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Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-02, 01:52

Kylero wrote:You do realize that IRC is not in-game right?

And I guess I may be wrong about you in some respects. I don't think you are here to steal wealth in the form of free weapons and such. Apparently you don't fight, so you're good there. But what I do think you are doing is using eBelgium as a means for political power because its easier than the UK. And with this power, it can be inferred that you will keep the status quo of redistribution to your eBrit friends.

Of course. But if I'm active IRC, surely that means I'm available for eRepublik purposes? I'm on the IRC because I'm on eRepublik ingame all the and that's my point. I am active ingame all the time.

When Belgium fights the UK, I'll be 100% fighting, it's just I've been busy writing MoFA articles and other RL things.

No, no, I promise you that is not the case. I would never do that. I joined Belgium for a new experience, not for political power.

"redistribution to your eBrit friends" That's not true. There's not eBrit people here? Many Belgians are in the UK right now though.
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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-02, 01:54

Let's not make it partisan, Kylero, I know you care about Belgium and I know I do. So let's make the CP Campaign on who has the best ideals and who would make the better CP, rather that accusations of stealing wealth and other low blows.

Don't make it negative.
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