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Re: CP November

Post by Kylero on 2012-11-02, 01:58

Agreed. Detailed manifesto coming soon.

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Re: CP November

Post by Requiem Domine on 2012-11-02, 08:03

Lily Jayne Summers wrote:IIko, please move on and grow up.
About time for you to do it, Lily. Instead of making personal attacks, face the truth.
None of the MoFA articles you published ingame (in August or October) you did by your own. The template for "Get to know my neighbour" is mine creation, even the questions ( with all the grammar mistakes and non-English phrasing in) you used for "your" interviews are mine. How do you keep on track with all government articles, published around the eWorld? Oh, yes, I gave you a file (.html file) with over 190 government newspapers, because you didn't bother to find them by your own.
Also, you can not handle your emotions at times (not only mine impression).
Lily Jayne Summers wrote: I'm active on the irc and therefore I'm active ingame.
....are you serious? Your level of irc activity is near the average minimum for a future President. How often do you pop up in cot chans? Is your presence the same as it was in the begining of NLSP's term? (to be read as: no presence at all)

Your manifestos are all talk, but no substance. That's it.

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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-02, 15:20

Requiem Domine wrote:
Lily Jayne Summers wrote:IIko, please move on and grow up.
About time for you to do it, Lily. Instead of making personal attacks, face the truth.
None of the MoFA articles you published ingame (in August or October) you did by your own. The template for "Get to know my neighbour" is mine creation, even the questions ( with all the grammar mistakes and non-English phrasing in) you used for "your" interviews are mine. How do you keep on track with all government articles, published around the eWorld? Oh, yes, I gave you a file (.html file) with over 190 government newspapers, because you didn't bother to find them by your own.
Also, you can not handle your emotions at times (not only mine impression).
Lily Jayne Summers wrote: I'm active on the irc and therefore I'm active ingame.
....are you serious? Your level of irc activity is near the average minimum for a future President. How often do you pop up in cot chans? Is your presence the same as it was in the begining of NLSP's term? (to be read as: no presence at all)

Your manifestos are all talk, but no substance. That's it.

You still bitter 2 months on, that you have to makes lies up?

I'm disappointed.

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Re: CP November

Post by Requiem Domine on 2012-11-02, 15:46

Lily Jayne Summers wrote:You still bitter 2 months on, that you have to makes lies up?

I'm disappointed.
Shall I be disappointed you refuse to face the truth? Nothing of what I said is a lie. And I can prove it.

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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-02, 15:51

Requiem Domine wrote:
Lily Jayne Summers wrote:You still bitter 2 months on, that you have to makes lies up?

I'm disappointed.
Shall I be disappointed you refuse to face the truth? Nothing of what I said is a lie. And I can prove it.

Really? Just like you promised a referendum on joining CoT, which you broke? That wasn't a lie was it? As you are whiter than white in honesty and integrity.

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Re: CP November

Post by Requiem Domine on 2012-11-02, 15:57

Lily Jayne Summers wrote:Really? Just like you promised a referendum on joining CoT, which you broke? That wasn't a lie was it? As you are whiter than white in honesty and integrity.
I did promise it, I did break it, and I endured the consequences. When you can not defend yourself with a valid argument, you feel the need to change the subject of the conversation. As I said above, you are not able to handle your emotions.
You are running for CP this time, not me. Deal with it.

Also, yes, I can prove it. I have IRC logs, which can verify your presence from the last 4 months in different channels. I also own the very first template of "Get to know your neighbour" articles, and the .html file with last modified date and much, much more.

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Re: CP November

Post by boer jan on 2012-11-02, 16:04

look, I think that the more importend thing about the candidates is their commitment to eBe.
We have 4 candidates and none of them is really military active
there we can place: LJS N°1; Zangetsu-osan N°2 and Kylero N°3

political when we look at the medals:
Kylero N°1; LJS N°2 and Jens Leupe N°3
when you evaluate this with the time of birth in mind: LJS N°1 and Kylero N°2

in the media no doubt it is Kylero as N°1. LJS N°2 and Jens Leupe N°3

I can not evaluate other activity's cause I am not impartial enough in this case to do it right, maybe someone other can do this to have a better global sight on the candidates?

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Re: CP November

Post by Fhaemita Malodorous on 2012-11-02, 17:30

Funny how Lilly is accused of being inactive and suddenly MoFA(s?) brings out two articles Rolling Eyes

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Re: CP November

Post by MCKitkat on 2012-11-02, 17:55

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:Funny how Lilly is accused of being inactive and suddenly MoFA(s?) brings out two articles Rolling Eyes

I wrote the articles, I just found it was too inactive. I'm trying to finish the CoT overview part.

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Re: CP November

Post by MaryamQ on 2012-11-03, 08:07

For what it is worth, perhaps it is time for eBelgians to stop choosing someone based on personality and personal liking or not, and start to choose on more objective criteria. Boer Jan made a start at that. Other things you might look at are the platforms of each candidate - Are they reasonable? Are they achievable? Will they serve the interests of all eBelgians? As important as experience is who the candidates will work with - will they surround themselves with effective and responsible people (not an easy task in eBe at the moment, but not impossible)? Will they reach across party lines, making themselves nonpartisan and CP of all the people? Will they give newer players a chance to develop their talents without leaving them adrift and without guidance? Can they and will they play nicely with others in the greater interest of the citizens as a whole?

From a personal point of view, I believe Kylero and LJS are your only viable candidates. Each has strengths and weaknesses. I have known Kylero a long time. We served together in Thore's cabinet at the beginning of V2 (my first experience as a minister). The first time I ran for CP, I defeated him. I do not always agree with him, but I do consider him a friend. He is not without experience, but it is true it is not recent and many younger players will not know him. His style will be very different from Lily's. He is a passionate role player, and committed to his mission to wipe out multis, which I interpret as a commitment to fair play. I have not known LJS as long, but she has certainly been very much involved in the forum and IRC community almost from the day she came to eBe, and she has been chosen by several people to serve in government.

As I see it, you should not put too much stock in promises by either candidate, but you should consider what they emphasize and whether you agree with that emphasis. Promises are much easier to make than to keep, especially in a situation where the game is constantly changing and so much depends on the action (or lack thereof) of Congress, neighbors and allies.

Above all, although you should make an informed choice, remember that it is a game, that even without the impeachment option terms last only one month, and that it is highly unlikely that even a poor choice will do permanent and irreversible damage.


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Re: CP November

Post by Fhaemita Malodorous on 2012-11-04, 01:34

Ok, I had critique on LJS because of her lack of activity in-game but I want to keep it real and also look at her opponent Kylero. He has really been active in-game either. Only 5 days ago he began to fight again rest of the month he's been two clicking.

Both are low level really Kylero is level 26 and LJS is level 27. These days you can reach level 20 (500 xp) in the first day of erep and level 26 is 7000 xp and level 27 is 10k xp. Kylero been playing since 2009 but quit a couple of times and LJS been playing since 2011 and probably the same story. Level 26 or level 27 is easily attainable within a month after a newbie starts playing so them being so low level isn't a good sign.

Although I had harsh critique on LJS on her activity same could really be said for Kylero. I don't think either is an ideal candidate but I think there aren't many candidates who are super active in Belgium and other should be given the chance. Lets just hope they'll both be more active out of game then they are in-game and both will do a good job.

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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-05, 06:05

Good luck to anyone running ^^

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Re: CP November

Post by tommot on 2012-11-05, 19:01

And to you too. Wink

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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-06, 00:26

We'll see who has won tomorrow ^^

Na night Belgium! <3

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Re: CP November

Post by p0lluxx on 2012-11-06, 00:35

Lily Jayne Summers wrote:We'll see who has won tomorrow ^^

Na night Belgium! <3

Anyway you will win.

Prove me that i was wrong with your activity this month Lily !

Good luck for you presidency Smile

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Re: CP November

Post by Fhaemita Malodorous on 2012-11-06, 08:54


Congrats LJS

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Re: CP November

Post by Hoso on 2012-11-06, 13:14

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
Congrats LJS

+1

Now it's time for at least a month of good governance.
Good luck Lily Smile

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Re: CP November

Post by tommot on 2012-11-06, 13:41

I'm getting the impression that Lily won but i can't see the results yet as they are being counted at this moment(+- 1.5 hours)
I'll make an article later on.

Congrats to the winner anyway, whomever that is. cheers

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Re: CP November

Post by AndreasC on 2012-11-06, 18:33

Congrats LJS

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Re: CP November

Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-11-06, 18:36

Thank you for the congratulations Smile

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Don't worry, I'll be active I promise Wink
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Let me take the opportunity to thank Kylero directly too, who showed great gratitude who messaged me personally. Smile

Cabinet out soon.

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Re: CP November

Post by jojin mercenario on 2012-11-07, 18:44

go lily!! congratulations

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