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Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-28, 19:30

Since 3 days in the official channel #eBrussels, it is forbidden for French speakers to speak in French.

That's why I thought about creating a unofficial eBelgium channel for French speakers, what do you think about it? I think #eBrussels-fr is good. Just, don't forget that #eBrussels will still the official eBelgium channel, I don't want to split people.

And I want to add that it's the same thing for Flemmish speakers, but I won't create it, I don't speak it ^^

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-28, 19:59

I thought about one of them:
#eBrussels-fr
#eBrussels.fr
#eBruxelles

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by BrunoCND on 2013-03-28, 20:00

/me votes for #eBruxelles
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Stijn Puttemans on 2013-03-28, 20:17

Why its forbidden to speak French on that channel???
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Gyantse on 2013-03-28, 20:33

Stijn Puttemans wrote:Why its forbidden to speak French on that channel???

To we can understand arguing between BB and english speaking players Very Happy

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Coprolyth on 2013-03-28, 20:36

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Olv007 on 2013-03-28, 20:47

I want a channel for Brusseleirs - Bruxellois !!!
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-28, 20:57

Good! So, which one do you prefer? (French speakers)
#eBrussels-fr
#eBrussels.fr
#eBruxelles

I think eBruxelles is the best Smile it's the French translation for eBrussels Smile

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-28, 21:09

Stijn Puttemans wrote:Why its forbidden to speak French on that channel???

Yes, it is now. I hope you can understand why I feel upset, as French speaker ^^ My English is not really good, as some people. The communication is altered for me and for these people, so...

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by boer jan on 2013-03-28, 21:48

it has always been so, but if there were French it was tolerated
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-28, 21:55

But right now it is not, i get banned one time so...

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by boer jan on 2013-03-28, 21:58

see that something changed, now it is written:
"English only.(When people complain.)"
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Pieter557 on 2013-03-28, 22:05

Zangetsu-osan wrote:But right now it is not, i get banned one time so...

That's because you were trolling. Smile

Anyway it's annoying for people who don't speak french ( the majority ) if they want to talk and everyone else is talking french. They can't join the discussion either. And this is not about it being "french" but a language that not everyone can understand. Everyone understands english. ( At least I suppose so else you wouldn't be here... )

Anyway, I think french can be tolerated perfectly but if not french speaking people want to join, I think a switch to English should be made.
English is still the nr1 langauge used and it will stay this way. So don't make a habit talking french Smile

( Or replace french by dutch in the above, same thing. Smile )
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-28, 22:22

Trolling? me? Oh well...

But when people speaks with difficult English words, I can't follow the discussion either. Then, don't forget that people should know how to speak English, but it's not the reality. My English is crappy and I know it. In a eBelgian channel, I should be able to talk in a official Belgium language, and French is one.

I can show you (yes, I register ALL chat logs) that you talked in Flemish (or NL) and I didn't say nothing :/ I respect that Sad

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Elynnie on 2013-03-28, 22:23

it would be a good idea, but this channel should not be an official channel because it would splite people
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-28, 22:27

I said it would be an unofficial channel. But when we're obliged Elynnie to talk in private conv., do you think it gather the community? I don't think so ^^

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by boer jan on 2013-03-28, 22:32

why would you talk in private with Elynnie? you are up to something?
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Elynnie on 2013-03-28, 22:39

you don't like our private conversations ? Sad
i'm agree with pieter, talk in english is better to integrate everyone
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-28, 22:42

O_O

BoerJan, we can't speak in #eBrussels in French, so where do you want to speak? x)

Elynnie, seriously, do you understand all the things people said in English in? It's not my case :/
(PS: I love our conversations! Very Happy)

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Cotarius on 2013-03-28, 22:45

Elynnie wrote:it would be a good idea, but this channel should not be an official channel because it would splite people

Elynnie wrote:you don't like our private conversations ? Sad
i'm agree with pieter, talk in english is better to integrate everyone

I agree with this because when we have a french channel we also want a flemish channel.
And when we are splitting it maybe it is easier to get a united Belgium with the Netherlands so they can conquerer Wallonia. I know I go over the top but that is also what I think of the french channel.
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Elynnie on 2013-03-28, 22:54

in Belgium there are 2 different languages (french and NL) ​​so if you want everyone to enjoy.

if this channel was created the flemish people speak on #ebrussel-fl, the french people on #ebrussels-fr and nobody on #ebrussels Very Happy
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by mEd on 2013-03-28, 22:56

#eBruxelles, JE DIS OUI MONSIEUR !
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-28, 22:59

Elynnie, people are talking in priv. Do you know where I'm obliged to speak in French? In the official channel of the Government or personal channels. So people don't speak more in #eBrussels :p

And I think people prefer #eBruxelles, good choice people (oh well, I would say "good choice" even if you took another one ^^)

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Jofroi on 2013-03-29, 07:03

Cotarius wrote:
And when we are splitting it maybe it is easier to get a united Belgium with the Netherlands so they can conquerer Wallonia. I know I go over the top but that is also what I think of the french channel.

I've the feeling I'll join the dutch channel instead of the french one :p

More seriously, I know that in the past there already existed french and dutch channels, so it'll be nothing new.And I agree with Pieter, the debates at country level are all made in english and if french and dutch are tolerated on the forum, it's rare that we see them on serious topics Wink

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Maresal Lengas on 2013-03-29, 07:59

after what we are so low as population, now we divide ourselves. Great! Illuminated minds make illuminated rules. I prefere to hear french than not hearing no one in eBrussels... Just my opinion.

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-29, 08:27

Even if you're a French speaker and you never come in the normal one? f*** logic jofroi Razz

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by boer jan on 2013-03-29, 09:09

Zangetsu-osan wrote:

(PS: I love our conversations! Very Happy)

that is what I meant, you are up to something, I am pretty sure of it Wink

back on topic, I think French must be possible,
only when you see that there non French speakers joining, adapt and try to speak English.
sometimes I do also mix the languages, yesterday on BNA we did it also, French, English, as long as everybody knows what is said it is OK, only when you see that someone will flee cause he can not follow the conversation you adapt.
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-29, 12:37

BoerJan, it's in your head Razz

I was only speaking to French speakers, no to other people :/ But sometimes, I'm not able to translate all the things I said in English because of my poor English...

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Eco Freak on 2013-03-29, 14:19

They openly kiss each other... something is going on! Wink
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-29, 14:37

Oh please... it's not the thing we're talking about here! Embarassed

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by BelgiumGeneral on 2013-03-29, 17:00

I personally am not up for this idea because it will split our community in 2 sides
+ Dutch speaking people don't want to speak French and French speaking people don't like to speak Dutch so English is neutral language :p
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-29, 17:53

It would be great if all people know how to speak English. And it's not the case, look at me :p

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Nanar on 2013-03-29, 20:21

Even if I'm quite new, and from France I'd like to share my point of view. As french speaker it's true that sometimes it is hard to understand every thing said on IRC. But after all, langage is really important for a small community like ours.

But, we can also have a French chanel which won't be official. It can be use for some help to beginners or for some talks. But nothing officiel. (German speaker can do the same).

Anyway, it's really important to have one chan officiel where everybody is and speak in English.
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-29, 21:03

I agree! Very Happy

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by MCKitkat on 2013-03-29, 22:20

I resist and say

Let's join #erepLuxembourg, the new unofficial eBelgian channel Very Happy for luxembourgish people Razz
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-29, 22:47

Finally, I decide the channel will be #eBruxelles. For French speakers!
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Yannis on 2013-03-30, 10:14

BelgiumGeneral wrote:I personally am not up for this idea because it will split our community in 2 sides
+ Dutch speaking people don't want to speak French and French speaking people don't like to speak Dutch so English is neutral language :p

Hey! I'm doing the effort, improves my French. You could do the same from time to time Razz
Also some Dutch could be nice to hear as well
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Coprolyth on 2013-03-30, 10:16

What about Konrad who speak from time to time in German to his fellow german friends on IRC, do they deserv a ban too ?
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Yannis on 2013-03-30, 10:54

Coprolyth wrote:What about Konrad who speak from time to time in German to his fellow german friends on IRC, do they deserv a ban too ?

Nope, becuz dat german languag rulzzzz

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-30, 11:08

Oh Yannis, you're back?
Why German language rules?

Coryn, I don't know, but well... I didn't see him talk many time in German in #eBrussels.

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by tommot on 2013-03-30, 11:35

Zangtsu, may i remind you that you where not kicked out of the #ebrussels channel because you spoke French, but it was the content that got you in trouble and it was not permanent. As Pieter explained earlier in this topic.

And now you separate the french-speaking from the rest of the community.
Even if that is not your intention, it will be the result.
How and why do you come to such a decision?
Such things creates more division instead of closing that gap.

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by NicknameFromRonny on 2013-03-30, 12:01

Everyone should drink enough until he speaks fluent Esperanto before joining any IRC channel. All in favour?
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Nanar on 2013-03-30, 12:27

For the drinking part, can't agree more Very Happy
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by boer jan on 2013-03-30, 12:34

freneza servi tiujn lecionojn ankoraŭ ion
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by tommot on 2013-03-30, 12:53

boer jan wrote:freneza servi tiujn lecionojn ankoraŭ ion
Google-translation: mad to serve those lessons still something...........................???huh??? Razz

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by boer jan on 2013-03-30, 13:05

seems Google do not like Esperanto just like me, hated those lessons, it is not made for Germanic speakers.
well I am not really sure if I made the sentence right
wanted to say, "te gek, dienden die lessen toch nog voor iets"
only this way it does not fit," te gek" is a Duth expression, hard to put it in other language
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by MaryamQ on 2013-03-30, 20:54

Speaking as an English speaker who can read French and sometimes understand things written in Dutch, I think honestly that English should remain the official language of eBrussels because we are such a mixed community and - even though I can understand why people don't like it - English is the most universal language among people playing this game.

As for having to go into private channels/chats to speak in your preferred language, I really don't see why that is such a problem. I have my own private channel, and people will often break into Dutch there, although they know I don't always understand. I tolerate it because I know they will switch back to English if I say anything. I also have my best conversations in query, where there are no rules about what language you use. We are such a small community, I hate to see further divisions made over language.
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Yannis on 2013-03-30, 23:45

Zangetsu-osan wrote:Oh Yannis, you're back?
Why German language rules?

Coryn, I don't know, but well... I didn't see him talk many time in German in #eBrussels.

Nope, just got some wifi today in Swakopmund. And "rules" is a verb, you could paraphrase it as "beats any other (language)" Wink
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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by Tensa Zangetsu san on 2013-03-31, 00:28

I know Yannis, I'm bad at English but I know what "rules" means xD
However, I don't understand MaryamQ.
BoerJan, I've never tried to learn Esperanto, maybe should I?

The truth is that if I can't feel free to speak with other French speakers in French in this channel, I can't explain precisely the things I want to say. I constantly need a translator in a opened in a window.
Then, when I need to talk to Jofroi, BrunoCND, Yannis... I do it in private. The only thing I do is I gather these people in order to have all-in-one chat. The situation doesn't change, it's precisely the same.
I don't want to separate the community, and if it's happen, the problem is not from me (._.) This is the problem in a country with more than one official language ^^
I can't speak perfectly in English, and NOBODY will stop me from speaking in French, I prefer inform you all.

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Re: A eBelgium IRC channel for French speakers?

Post by MaryamQ on 2013-03-31, 09:38

What I apparently didn't make clear is that I think it is fine to speak your own language in private areas, but to make a semi-official alternate public channel is likely to divide the community even further, a division we really don't need at this point. I do understand that it is hard for many of you to speak English. I am really impressed that you all do as well as you do, knowing how hard it would be for me in any other language. I just think it is important to use a more universal language than French, not just for primary English speakers like me, but also for the speakers of Dutch, Hungarian, Romanian, Spanish, and whatever other languages are the native tongues of our active community.
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