Religion

barabum wrote:Having religious beliefs; means I have and I respect some traditional values and norms, which you are missing evidently. True believers certainly can not accept perverted and weird personalities.

So, are you now calling Konrad and Fhaemita perverted? Just cause they fight against homophobic comments?

I thought that Jezus said you should love each other, not that you should resent people cause their love is different than your love ...

NLSP wrote:I thought that Jezus said you should love each other, not that you should resent people cause their love is different than your love ...

Gotta love Christians who clearly only read what they want to read and cherry pick. They quote leviticus about what was said about homosexuality but ignore what else is forbidden in leviticus. Jezus hung out with the outcast, Jesus was about love and acceptance something Christians tend to forget. Let me quote you the bible just two verses that you should take to heart

A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” - John 13:34-35

"Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. - Luke 6:37

Also disclaimer:
Although I do not believe I do not have a problems who do believe. If they want to believe and find support in religion more power to them!. I do however have a problem with religious people pushing their religion and their religious standard upson me and use their believe against me.

I heard that Matthew, John and Jezus regularly had a threesome with each other

So I think that Fhaemita is more following Jezus his way than barabum is ^^

To Fhae's post, let me add The Golden Rule, which is stated by almost every religion, including Christianity, as the standard for which believers should strive.  I assume you do not wish to be harassed by others.

from which thread does this split come from?

Yannis wrote:from which thread does this split come from?

Justice thread, barabum made a comment there

barabum wrote:2. Having religious beliefs; means I have and I respect some traditional values and norms, which you are missing evidently. True believers certainly can not accept perverted and weird personalities.

I think that is was wrong to do this split, religion is not a subject that should be discussed on this forum, it will only provoke more trouble, or is it this the purpose of this split?

boer jan wrote:I think that is was wrong to do this split

In Fhae's defense: it would have been even worse NOT to split it

Boklevski wrote:

boer jan wrote:I think that is was wrong to do this split

In Fhae's defense: it would have been even worse NOT to split it

Agreed

boer jan wrote:not a subject that should be discussed on this forum

:O oh noes, don't say that
the 'free speech' police will arrest you now and whip you into obedience in the name of The One True God, Spiderpig

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NLSP wrote:
So, are you now calling Konrad and Fhaemita perverted? Just cause they fight against homophobic comments?

Those are your words, not mine.

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:

Justice thread, barabum made a comment there

You are really pathetic brat and I will be obliged to stop communicating to you at the end.

barabum wrote:

NLSP wrote:
So, are you now calling Konrad and Fhaemita perverted? Just cause they fight against homophobic comments?

Those are your words, not mine.

Actually those where your words you said and I quote "True believers certainly can not accept perverted and weird personalities" calling Konrad and me perverted

barabum wrote:

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
Justice thread, barabum made a comment there

You are really pathetic brat and I will be obliged to stop communicating to you at the end.

You started making a religious comment here that is how this discussion on religion started.
You seem to be unable (again) to come with any counter argument

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:

Boklevski wrote:

boer jan wrote:I think that is was wrong to do this split

In Fhae's defense: it would have been even worse NOT to split it

Agreed

not if there was a reasonable reaction when it was mentioned.

NLSP wrote:

boer jan wrote:not a subject that should be discussed on this forum

:O oh noes, don't say that
the 'free speech' police will arrest you now and whip you into obedience in the name of The One True God, Spiderpig

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Freedom of speech is important, but discussing religion is the exception, it's always giving trouble, and that is a proven fact in history.

boer jan wrote:Freedom of speech is important, but discussing religion is the exception, it's always giving trouble, and that is a proven fact in history.

What could be possible, is to exchange in your quote the word religion by something else and you come to a statement that is much more true

Freedom of speech is important, but discussing shadowukcs is the exception, it's always giving trouble, and that is a proven fact in history.

boer jan wrote:not if there was a reasonable reaction when it was mentioned.

boer jan wrote:Freedom of speech is important, but discussing religion is the exception, it's always giving trouble, and that is a proven fact in history.

Reasonable reaction? Tell that to barabum who uses his religion to make derogatory comments about Konrad and me because where are gay. Do you think calling us pervers is reasonable? Barabum is the one who brought up religion and who uses it to make homophobic comments and "religious" picture that was clearly offense to someone who is gay. In the other thread you made a comment about double standard, Barabum can make comments about us because we are gay because of his religion but we cannot critique his religion that he uses to hate on us? Like I said I do not have a problem with religion only when it's (mis)used to hate on people and people who misinterpret the bible and cherry pick on what they read and want to use which is clearly the case with Barabum.

Look, All I wanted to say is that if you are feeding the trouble, it only gets bigger, whoever starts whatever that is maybe wrong, or that you do not like, show that you are smart enough, you can react and after that it is finished, not like now, where both sides are equal in childish behaviour, you know that you can not change his vision and he knows you wont change yours, so shake hands drink a beer together and go playing.
At work I have a colleague who is gay, it happens that I see on his face that I said something wrong, if that happens I always say "Ben your d*ck is too long I stepped on it again", and he answers me with "you wanna see him" at that moment we both know that it is time to change conversation, I love working with that guy, he is great, and I am not gay at all, but even if it is someone else he hears telling something wrong, he turns his back on them and says, "those lesbians are talking again", and I "ssst, they may hear you", we both laugh and the others not knowing what, mostly go further. that is the spirit, not always going in defence and making things worse.

It's clearly pointless discussion leading nowhere.

Especially for Fhaemita M aka Valeyard:

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Religion is the opium of the people.

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