Goodbye again :3

I've had a fun time in Belgium, as always. It's been a great 3 months working with various CP's and with the BAF of course. Lot of people to see thank you and goodbye to, probably too many to name actually . My best memory though will be fighting off the French in Flanders along with Mittekemuis, Pieter and Shadow, was a great if tiring week all-in-all. The elections where fun even if i didn't win and i wish NLSP the best this month (even though i was the better candidate )

I've decided to leave as i have nothing to get involved with this month in Belgium, i like to be active within this game as you have seen previously but i have been left out of everything this month including the BAF which makes me quite angry because they are short of capable commanders and Critically and NLSP (both Generals) are doubling up as CP and MoD which gives them a lot of work to do which i could have helped with but it seems that i am unwanted after my previous service so I'll just move along to somewhere where i can get involved more actively.

I've came twice to Belgium now with CP's contacting me looking for someone to fill there cabinet so i'm sure i'll be back the next you have a cabinet shortage

Thanks & goodbye

temujin94 wrote:
I've decided to leave as i have nothing to get involved with this month in Belgium, i like to be active within this game as you have seen previously but i have been left out of everything this month including the BAF which makes me quite angry because they are short of capable commanders and Critically and NLSP (both Generals) are doubling up as CP and MoD which gives them a lot of work to do which i could have helped with but it seems that i am unwanted after my previous service so I'll just move along to somewhere where i can get involved more actively.

So sad... While it's very important for the army to keep it independance from the Government ! For now, there is 2 Generals : one is CP, the other is MoD :-/ I have been more lucky, i have been contacted for a regiment officer post ! :-x You and Fabio86 are the best men i think to be named Generals and give a new boost of the army after the last days difficulties ! I hope you could reconsider your departure !

I'm very sad to see you leave eBelgium because you have the feeling to be unwanted, and i would like to thanks you for all your commitment in the past and the hard work you did !

:-(

You are not unwanted temujin! We wanted to ask you for the Regiment Commander job but you was unavailable on the IRC :/ so we couldn't asked you!!! If you want, you can still have the job!

-Gen. Critically

Critically wrote:You are not unwanted temujin! We wanted to ask you for the Regiment Commander job but you was unavailable on the IRC :/ so we couldn't asked you!!! If you want, you can still have the job!

-Gen. Critically

So there is actually for now 0 real Generals, as you're MoD and that NLSP is President, both part of the Executive... BUT you propose to Manong and me the same job of regiment commander job ? And after you say that there is lack of candidates for Generals ? I hope Temujin94 won't feel more unwanted when he see that you propose him a regiment commander job while there is availabilities for Generals post and that he have been MoD in the past, member of the BAF HC, and have a lot of experience !

Good luck Temujin94 :-(

Good luck Termujin94

ThomasRED wrote:

Critically wrote:You are not unwanted temujin! We wanted to ask you for the Regiment Commander job but you was unavailable on the IRC :/ so we couldn't asked you!!! If you want, you can still have the job!

-Gen. Critically

So there is actually for now 0 real Generals, as you're MoD and that NLSP is President, both part of the Executive... BUT you propose to Manong and me the same job of regiment commander job ? And after you say that there is lack of candidates for Generals ? I hope Temujin94 won't feel more unwanted when he see that you propose him a regiment commander job while there is availabilities for Generals post and that he have been MoD in the past, member of the BAF HC, and have a lot of experience !

Good luck Temujin94 :-(

1) Manong RESIGNED his job, I didn't asked him another time! (sounds very logical)
2) We have 2 Generals, NLSP and me! We only have now a CP and MoD job with it. I don't see any problems.
3) and please, don't do like this! You are constantly trying to find mistakes in NLSP his presidency because you have no power anymore!

-Gen. Critically

Critically wrote:

ThomasRED wrote:

Critically wrote:You are not unwanted temujin! We wanted to ask you for the Regiment Commander job but you was unavailable on the IRC :/ so we couldn't asked you!!! If you want, you can still have the job!

-Gen. Critically

So there is actually for now 0 real Generals, as you're MoD and that NLSP is President, both part of the Executive... BUT you propose to Manong and me the same job of regiment commander job ? And after you say that there is lack of candidates for Generals ? I hope Temujin94 won't feel more unwanted when he see that you propose him a regiment commander job while there is availabilities for Generals post and that he have been MoD in the past, member of the BAF HC, and have a lot of experience !

Good luck Temujin94 :-(

2) We have 2 Generals, NLSP and me! We only have now a CP and MoD job with it. I don't see any problems.

I disagree, even for newer players or commanders it's useful to have more positions, i could have been a MoD and General if i had wished but it makes more sense to promote people like yourself and NLSP for experience among other things so they can be better commanders.

You told me you wanted people that you can trust at 200% for the post of General : that's why you didn't proposed the post of Generals to Temujin94 but the post of "regiment commander job" (sigh) ? You resigned the military last month because i told you you were not enough active, and temujin is not good enough for General ?

I have been put as General after Election day and i asked Pieter to remove me from that group. I do not want to have any power this month, as i planned to reduce my play-time. That's why i refused the Regiment commander job you offered me, before to offer it to Temujin... It's also why i refused a goverment job when it was proposed to me.

I'm not bitchy as you said, or whatever, i'm worried about the army. I have maybe no power, but i have my free thinking... You have to choose : to be MoD, or to be General : you choose to be MoD, and now you come back with General title...

I'm in favour of the army independance from the government ! Thore Thoreson have worked hard on this idea, so did Medrolke, and i do have a problem of having 2 generals being CP+MoD !

I hope you don't want to name Temujin as General or Fabio86 only because they are BfB (and that temujin ran against NLSP), while you attack me to be power hungry...

temujin94 just stay.
I'm sure we can find something to do for you.
Come help me in my ministry!

"I don't know temujin94 good, and a month ago I was very angry on him, I can't give him a General job"

"and I would never give you a General position in the army because I don't trust you for 200% too."

-Aimed at TR

I lol'd

I was trying to get hold of you temujin on IRC to talk about your futue in the BAF, but when I was available I dindn't see you.
You were on the list as people we want in the BAF, but due circumstances you don't think that, I am sorry for that.
I wish you good luck

I see a lot of misunderstanding here. We should all take some time and talk properly in the IRC.

Good bye.

See you BBH!

shadowukcs wrote:See you BBH!

Always \o

Still I feel like it's a bad loser reaction.

Xgentis Lempereur wrote:Still I feel like it's a bad loser reaction.

Says RB...

temujin94 wrote:

Xgentis Lempereur wrote:Still I feel like it's a bad loser reaction.

Says RB...

lol. Touché

but still, if I had run for CP, I would've contacted my opponent(s) so that whoever looses can still have a cabinet position if they wish. If you were too confidnet to do that, then it's kinda your own fault tbh.

Still, good luck and thanks for everything

Medrolke wrote:

temujin94 wrote:

Xgentis Lempereur wrote:Still I feel like it's a bad loser reaction.

Says RB...

lol. Touché

but still, if I had run for CP, I would've contacted my opponent(s) so that whoever looses can still have a cabinet position if they wish. If you were too confidnet to do that, then it's kinda your own fault tbh.

Still, good luck and thanks for everything

I contacted NLSP about becoming my MoD so i did make contact

Good luck in ur new country Temujin94, hope u'll continue to act that good

Jofroi wrote:Good luck in ur new country Temujin94

bye i would come back to the uk with you but i like it here its cool

To what country are you going?

To the UK

temujin94 wrote:

Xgentis Lempereur wrote:Still I feel like it's a bad loser reaction.

Says RB...

Sure we rage left the country after losing the election.

temujin94 wrote:To the UK

You are going over to the enemy?!

Xgentis Lempereur wrote:

temujin94 wrote:

Xgentis Lempereur wrote:Still I feel like it's a bad loser reaction.

Says RB...

Sure we rage left the country after losing the election.

No you tried to PTO a friendly party instead, sorry, i'll come back and take over RB now instead

temujin94 wrote:

Xgentis Lempereur wrote:

temujin94 wrote:

Xgentis Lempereur wrote:Still I feel like it's a bad loser reaction.

Says RB...

Sure we rage left the country after losing the election.

No you tried to PTO a friendly party instead, sorry, i'll come back and take over RB now instead

You accuse me of pto?

Xgentis Lempereur wrote:

temujin94 wrote:

Xgentis Lempereur wrote:

temujin94 wrote:

Xgentis Lempereur wrote:Still I feel like it's a bad loser reaction.

Says RB...

Sure we rage left the country after losing the election.

No you tried to PTO a friendly party instead, sorry, i'll come back and take over RB now instead

You accuse me of pto?

Your party tried to along with others

guys, just STFU about it. it's old news.

temujin just made a good comeback, you don't need to turn it in to an argument.

Chris Stanwick wrote:

temujin94 wrote:To the UK

You are going over to the enemy?!

You are not getting a goodbye from me

NLSP wrote:I was trying to get hold of you temujin on IRC to talk about your futue in the BAF, but when I was available I dindn't see you.
You were on the list as people we want in the BAF, but due circumstances you don't think that, I am sorry for that.
I wish you good luck

And still not the time to contact him ? He is maybe experienced enough to be supply clerk if not General :-x

:-( a waste of gold human ressources...

It's is choice to leave, that also show that he was no so dedicaced to eBelgium as we all though he was.
And he was still congressman I might add.

ThomasRED wrote:

NLSP wrote:I was trying to get hold of you temujin on IRC to talk about your futue in the BAF, but when I was available I dindn't see you.
You were on the list as people we want in the BAF, but due circumstances you don't think that, I am sorry for that.
I wish you good luck

And still not the time to contact him ? He is maybe experienced enough to be supply clerk if not General :-x

:-( a waste of gold human ressources...

I asked him if he wanted the Regiment Commander job and he refused! So stop doing like this! if he wants to leave, then I will not hold him! It is his own choice. If he has the feeling to be unwanted, then he has the wrong feeling!

Critically wrote:
I asked him if he wanted the Regiment Commander job and he refused! So stop doing like this! if he wants to leave, then I will not hold him! It is his own choice. If he has the feeling to be unwanted, then he has the wrong feeling!

The Regiment commander job offer was an insult for a player as experienced as Temujin94 in the Army...
But as Temujin reported here :

"I don't know temujin94 good, and a month ago I was very angry on him, I can't give him a General job"
"and I would never give you a General position in the army because I don't trust you for 200% too."

So yes in my opinion you didn't acted right, refusing to propose him as General while we need 2 General ASAP! and that you don't want to choose him not because he is not good enough for the function (we all know that Temujin will be a great general), but because "you were angry at him one month ago" ???

Oh please... (and it's quite hilarious -sigh- when we know you resigned from the army because you were not enough active last month as General and that you didn't accepted my remarks. So you will be as active as last month, but now you're also MoD... :-/ And i tell it again, Thore and Medrolke fought for the independance of the army, and we have to respect it : NLSP and Critically are not Generals anymore, they are CP and MoD ! So there is 2 vacant posts of Generals, and when you have to propose something to Temujin, maybe the best man for the position in eBE, you propose him a post of regiment commander, that i refused 10min before you proposed it to him ?)

This does not excuse him for leaving he was a congressman he left in the middle of his manda do we want that kind of peoples that leave because of a little setback in a election? And he choose to leave by himself I don't know why you try to put the blame on someone else TR.

ThomasRED wrote:

Critically wrote:
I asked him if he wanted the Regiment Commander job and he refused! So stop doing like this! if he wants to leave, then I will not hold him! It is his own choice. If he has the feeling to be unwanted, then he has the wrong feeling!

The Regiment commander job offer was an insult for a player as experienced as Temujin94 in the Army...
But as Temujin reported here :

"I don't know temujin94 good, and a month ago I was very angry on him, I can't give him a General job"
"and I would never give you a General position in the army because I don't trust you for 200% too."

So yes in my opinion you didn't acted right, refusing to propose him as General while we need 2 General ASAP! and that you don't want to choose him not because he is not good enough for the function (we all know that Temujin will be a great general), but because "you were angry at him one month ago" ???

Oh please... (and it's quite hilarious -sigh- when we know you resigned from the army because you were not enough active last month as General and that you didn't accepted my remarks. So you will be as active as last month, but now you're also MoD... :-/ And i tell it again, Thore and Medrolke fought for the independance of the army, and we have to respect it : NLSP and Critically are not Generals anymore, they are CP and MoD ! So there is 2 vacant posts of Generals, and when you have to propose something to Temujin, maybe the best man for the position in eBE, you propose him a post of regiment commander, that i refused 10min before you proposed it to him ?)

1) the quotes you did were in PRIVATE military section
2) Only and only the President choose his Generals, I can help him with his choice.
3) I am searching for an other General. He can always apply!
4) And we are still Generals:! :
5) I didn't resign my post because I was inactive it was because I can't work together with you
6) If you are not happy with all these things that happens, Go to the Supreme Court or start an impeachment!

-Gen./MoD. Critically

Xgentis, the fact he leave is a reaction to a fact X.
The fact X is that he have not been invited to join the Military High Command.

Now, look at the situation : We had 2 generals, NLSP and Critically, and one Regiment Commander, Manong Rizal. The First one became President, the second one became MoD, the third one resigned. Vulcain have been choose as military adviser to replace the MoD during his inactivity times, but he also resigned.

As member of the army, i'm worried, and i'm also worried because i gave a lot of time to help the army last month. The independance of the army from the government is very important.

Now we have 2 generals post to fullfill, and one regiment commander job too.

The question is : DO YOU REALLY AGREE WITH NLSP and CRITICALLY WHEN THEY JUDGED THAT TEMUJIN94 WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE GENERAL ?

If Temujin94 is not good enough to be General, i don't know who is... except NLSP and Critically of course ;-)

ThomasRED wrote:Xgentis, the fact he leave is a reaction to a fact X.
The fact X is that he have not been invited to join the Military High Command.

Now, look at the situation : We had 2 generals, NLSP and Critically, and one Regiment Commander, Manong Rizal. The First one became President, the second one became MoD, the third one resigned. Vulcain have been choose as military adviser to replace the MoD during his inactivity times, but he also resigned.

As member of the army, i'm worried, and i'm also worried because i gave a lot of time to help the army last month. The independance of the army from the government is very important.

Now we have 2 generals post to fullfill, and one regiment commander job too.

The question is : DO YOU REALLY AGREE WITH NLSP and CRITICALLY WHEN THEY JUDGED THAT TEMUJIN94 WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE GENERAL ?

If Temujin94 is not good enough to be General, i don't know who is... except NLSP and Critically of course ;-)

I didn't say he is not good enough! I say I didn't trust him 200% (it is 150% ) And that is only MY opinion ofc! +check my previous post !

So he is not good enough as he have to get 200% of your trust...

To name Generals is not a personnal game, to appoint friends or people you like.

To not have proposed him to be General because "you were angry at him last month" is something i can't tolerated, and i'm sorry for that.

ThomasRED wrote:Xgentis, the fact he leave is a reaction to a fact X.
The fact X is that he have not been invited to join the Military High Command.

Now, look at the situation : We had 2 generals, NLSP and Critically, and one Regiment Commander, Manong Rizal. The First one became President, the second one became MoD, the third one resigned. Vulcain have been choose as military adviser to replace the MoD during his inactivity times, but he also resigned.

As member of the army, i'm worried, and i'm also worried because i gave a lot of time to help the army last month. The independance of the army from the government is very important.

Now we have 2 generals post to fullfill, and one regiment commander job too.

The question is : DO YOU REALLY AGREE WITH NLSP and CRITICALLY WHEN THEY JUDGED THAT TEMUJIN94 WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE GENERAL ?

If Temujin94 is not good enough to be General, i don't know who is... except NLSP and Critically of course ;-)

Actualy the fact that he left like this make him unreliable he was congressman he still had a duty toward the country but no he choose to leave so yeah I aproove our CP decision. Oh can an admin remove him from congress and citizens user groups thank you.

ThomasRED wrote:So he is not good enough as he have to get 200% of your trust...

To name Generals is not a personnal game, to appoint friends or people you like.

To not have proposed him to be General because "you were angry at him last month" is something i can't tolerated, and i'm sorry for that.

So I should appoint everyone who want it ? So I can appoint for example MisterNoName as General, even if I don't trust him for the 200% ? (don't take this too serious, it is just an example ) I only want people that I can co-operate with. I can co-operate with temujin but we had a fight last month (about supplying soldiers if you remember) and I AM SEARCHING TO A NEW GENERAL so be patient!

Critically wrote:
So I should appoint everyone who want it ? So I can appoint for example MisterNoName as General, even if I don't trust him for the 200% ? (don't take this too serious, it is just an example ) I only want people that I can co-operate with. I can co-operate with temujin but we had a fight last month (about supplying soldiers if you remember) and I AM SEARCHING TO A NEW GENERAL so be patient!

It's exactly my problem : i think everyone can agree on the fact that he would have been a great general, but because of personnal problems between you, you don't to name him ? If you can co-operate wit him, why you didn't proposed him the General post ? And to have 200% of your trust is very subjective : what does have people to do to have 200% of your trust ? Have been a BCP member in the past ? Have been part of an pto on BfB ? I see here that everyone is happy to see Temujin94 leave, and it make me sick, really... How can you be happy to see one of us leaving ? Really, i can't understand it. It's a game, and it seems the pleasure you find in it is to have fights with people and/or to judge them...

Thanks for your commitment Temujin, good bye, and please dont take care of the silly remarks here, your work have been really appreciated, and positive for eBE ! (what a shame to see you leave and not be able to do something... :-( what a waste of gold human ressources, again!)

ThomasRED wrote:

Critically wrote:
So I should appoint everyone who want it ? So I can appoint for example MisterNoName as General, even if I don't trust him for the 200% ? (don't take this too serious, it is just an example ) I only want people that I can co-operate with. I can co-operate with temujin but we had a fight last month (about supplying soldiers if you remember) and I AM SEARCHING TO A NEW GENERAL so be patient!

It's exactly my problem : i think everyone can agree on the fact that he would have been a great general, but because of personnal problems between you, you don't to name him ? If you can co-operate wit him, why you didn't proposed him the General post ? And to have 200% of your trust is very subjective : what does have people to do to have 200% of your trust ? Have been a BCP member in the past ? Have been part of an pto on BfB ? I see here that everyone is happy to see Temujin94 leave, and it make me sick, really... How can you be happy to see one of us leaving ? Really, i can't understand it. It's a game, and it seems the pleasure you find in it is to have fights with people and/or to judge them...

If i could give a little advice, and i think it's a good one, i would recommend to speak only for himself, and not for the others... ;-)
If he could leave like that then we had all the more reason not to trust him in the first place. Can an admin remove Temujin94 from congress and citizens user group he already gave up belgian citizenship.

ThomasRED wrote:

Critically wrote:
So I should appoint everyone who want it ? So I can appoint for example MisterNoName as General, even if I don't trust him for the 200% ? (don't take this too serious, it is just an example ) I only want people that I can co-operate with. I can co-operate with temujin but we had a fight last month (about supplying soldiers if you remember) and I AM SEARCHING TO A NEW GENERAL so be patient!

It's exactly my problem : i think everyone can agree on the fact that he would have been a great general, but because of personnal problems between you, you don't to name him ? If you can co-operate wit him, why you didn't proposed him the General post ? And to have 200% of your trust is very subjective : what does have people to do to have 200% of your trust ? Have been a BCP member in the past ? Have been part of an pto on BfB ? I see here that everyone is happy to see Temujin94 leave, and it make me sick, really... How can you be happy to see one of us leaving ? Really, i can't understand it. It's a game, and it seems the pleasure you find in it is to have fights with people and/or to judge them...

Thanks for your commitment Temujin, good bye, and please dont take care of the silly remarks here, your work have been really appreciated, and positive for eBE ! (what a shame to see you leave and not be able to do something... :-( what a waste of gold human ressources, again!)

I can announce that I found a new General in the last 5 minutes, but first I need the confirmation of our president.

This is not a political discussion but a military, so let the BCP out of it! I had a MILITARY fight with temujin94 so it has nothing to do with BCP/BfB/RB/etc.

and for the people who think that I like it that he leaves:
If you think this you are more sick in your head then I thought, we have a small community where every member of it plays a hugh role! I like (almost) everyone here so don't start with this type of RUBISH!

TR, right after the election I had a talk with temujin in which he clearly told me he didn't wanted to be General anyway, so cut the BS and go circlejerk on some other topic. He didn't want the job of General so your entire argument is flawed.

Your attempts to copy some form of opposition are rather pathetic so if you do plan on doing, go do it properly.


On the topic of Temujin, I do agree he should have been asked for something. On the other hand, I also think he's been MoD for 3 months now, so it should be time for some fresh faces and for letting someone else get experience.

but maybe something non-military related would have been nice.

shadowukcs wrote:TR, right after the election I had a talk with temujin in which he clearly told me he didn't wanted to be General anyway, so cut the BS and go circlejerk on some other topic. He didn't want the job of General so your entire argument is flawed.

On the topic of Temujin, I do agree he should have been asked for something. On the other hand, I also think he's been MoD for 3 months now, so it should be time for some fresh faces and for letting someone else get experience.

but maybe something non-military related would have been nice.

I say no more than you : it would have been nice.
Now he left, and i'm just sad, but the case is indeed close.

shadowukcs wrote:
Your attempts to copy some form of opposition are rather pathetic so if you do plan on doing, go do it properly.

Copying what ? And just to save you some times, i have planned to reduced my playing time to it minimum : work train, few comments, producing supplies for army and put it on BWC... I don't plan anything about being opposition etc, but i do react when i'm worried about something, the military, where i have put a lot of time, effort and gold to make it more efficient than before... I'm just concerned by the future of the Military, and it's also why i was sad to see Temujin left while he could have help us for sure, which is something i think you understand.

Good luck and live long and prosper!

Good luck over there!
I'm quite sure we 'll see the tip of your nose again some day.

No pint having a argument over something that's already been done, but I always be around if Belgium needs any help as always