where is our CP?

by Monsieur Guillotine 2011-10-25, 05:53

i am not happy with the way jamster is running things right now... nothing is really getting done, and sure, you can say now the MoFUN is doing something... but hey, who cares about that? is that going to solve belgium's problems? where has he been lately? it seems as though he has stepped back and neglected his duties as CP.

i think jamster needs to start stepping it up, or, resigning. otherwise, i will propose an impeachment.

yours truly,
monsieur guillontine

by goopypants 2011-10-25, 06:39

Well, inactivity and a lack of accomplishment isn't grounds for removing a CP. You should know that.

Ohhhhh wait....

by **Procuste** 2011-10-25, 06:48

Monsieur Guillotine wrote:
i think jamster needs to start stepping it up, or, resigning. otherwise, i will propose an impeachment.

A good eBelgian tradition. And a personal revenge as well it seems. scratch

by Monsieur Guillotine 2011-10-25, 07:09

Procuste wrote:
Monsieur Guillotine wrote:
i think jamster needs to start stepping it up, or, resigning. otherwise, i will propose an impeachment.

A good eBelgian tradition. And a personal revenge as well it seems.

this has nothing to do with revenge or not, procuste... please tell me what jamster has accomplished during his term, and what he has done about the crises our nation has been facing lately... hmmm. nothing.

by **M.Leviathin** 2011-10-25, 07:20

Now, imo, is not the time for an impeachment.

by Monsieur Guillotine 2011-10-25, 07:57

M.Leviathin wrote:Now, imo, is not the time for an impeachment.

reverend ruckus has spoken Very Happy

by **shadowukcs** 2011-10-25, 09:49

like your avatar levi

by **jamster737** 2011-10-25, 11:49

Procuste wrote:
Monsieur Guillotine wrote:
i think jamster needs to start stepping it up, or, resigning. otherwise, i will propose an impeachment.

A good eBelgian tradition. And a personal revenge as well it seems.

Just because you cant see things happening doesnt mean there not getting done. I also think it is a personal revenge but it was expected

by **jamster737** 2011-10-25, 12:21

Monsieur Guillotine wrote:
Procuste wrote:
Monsieur Guillotine wrote:
i think jamster needs to start stepping it up, or, resigning. otherwise, i will propose an impeachment.

A good eBelgian tradition. And a personal revenge as well it seems.

this has nothing to do with revenge or not, procuste... please tell me what jamster has accomplished during his term, and what he has done about the crises our nation has been facing lately... hmmm. nothing.

- I stood my ground i never removed shadow
- Ambassador system is nearly finished
- Ministry of fun stuff ;P
- Mid term article
- Set up MPP's
- Held a cabinet meeting over dutch
- Jofroi working hard on education program
- Gave a clear list of jobs for each ministry
- stuck around (i posting every day how is that inactivity ?)
- informed our friend Xagec (Ambassador of eBulgaria) of the current situation in belgium

It is 1 month i cant do everything what do you expect me to do
- solve belgium personal problems
- stop Terra and one fighting
- Fix economy
- Make admins listen
- give every citizen 1,000 Gold so we can all buy some Q5 companies.
- Make Belgium population reach 1 million

by **Nohjis** 2011-10-25, 12:25

jamster737 wrote:
Monsieur Guillotine wrote:
Procuste wrote:
Monsieur Guillotine wrote:
i think jamster needs to start stepping it up, or, resigning. otherwise, i will propose an impeachment.

A good eBelgian tradition. And a personal revenge as well it seems.

this has nothing to do with revenge or not, procuste... please tell me what jamster has accomplished during his term, and what he has done about the crises our nation has been facing lately... hmmm. nothing.
- I stood my ground i never removed shadow
- Ambassador system is nearly finished
- Ministry of fun stuff ;P
- Mid term article
- Set up MPP's
- Held a cabinet meeting over dutch
- Jofroi working hard on education program
- Gave a clear list of jobs for each ministry
- stuck around (i posting every day how is that inactivity ?)
- informed our friend Xagec (Ambassador of eBulgaria) of the current situation in belgium

It is 1 month i cant do everything what do you expect me to do
- solve belgium personal problems
- stop Terra and one fighting
- Fix economy
- Make admins listen

You forgot something to realize this term :
- give every citizen 1,000 Gold so we can all buy some Q5 companies.

by **RayCaptain** 2011-10-25, 12:27

Best. President. Ever.

And I enjoy Levi's new avatar... Though it is particularly gut wrenching ~-~

by **jamster737** 2011-10-25, 12:27

done

by Mikhail Alexander 2011-10-25, 14:00

Most of the stuff above is what is expected of every term. You haven't actually done anything different from the last, which shows you have no concept or desire to try new things. You'll be known in the Belgian history books for following the herd.

by **NLSP** 2011-10-25, 15:13

Jamster, to be honest, your personal list of your 'accomplishments' can not really convince me...

by **jamster737** 2011-10-25, 15:14

NLSP wrote:Jamster, to be honest, your personal list of your 'accomplishments' can not really convince me...

NLSP i have done more than past months. Last month we had the bodi awards .......

by **NLSP** 2011-10-25, 15:21

It is not cause you are better then someone else that you are good...
Yes Jofroi and Betafoxtrot are doing a very good job, there it however stops a bit...

Don't be proud about not following the SC, don't be proud about the mpp's where we asked finland for an mpp, don't be proud about the fact you did one mid-term article, don't be proud about doing some things that are considered as minimum minimorum like having a meeting about 'the dutch' or answering the questions of an ambassador...

by **jamster737** 2011-10-25, 15:29

I am proud i am doing something for belgium and not sitting there criticising everything anyone you dont like does.

by **shadowukcs** 2011-10-25, 16:11

I'd like to see NLSP's accomplishments during his term.

Also mikhail, I think jamster is doing a good job. You would have done a great job as well, but I honestly can't find anything about jamster as CP I can complain about.

by **Ward De Bever** 2011-10-25, 16:18

I'd like to see support for the BTA as voted by Congress, and a decent foreign policy. But as stated before, impeachment is not an option anyway - so for me I'll keep it to suggestions, and offering an alternative for next term.

by **shadowukcs** 2011-10-25, 16:20

Ward De Bever wrote:I'd like to see support for the BTA as voted by Congress, and a decent foreign policy. But as stated before, impeachment is not an option anyway - so for me I'll keep it to suggestions, and offering an alternative for next term.

ITT ward talking about foreign policy after he just showed on IRC the day earlier that he doesn't have the slightest clue what foreign policy in erepublik is.

>mfw I read his post
where is our CP? ?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gifbin.com%2Fbin%2F052009%2F1243271414_black_guy_laughing

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by **Jofroi** 2011-10-25, 17:00

jamster737 wrote:I am proud i am doing something for belgium and not sitting there criticising everything anyone you dont like does.

That's the purpose of the opposition to criticize the gov Wink

. Gov is supported to work and the opposition is there to be able to complain if something is not done well, it is a kind of safety barrier to avoid abuses.

Shadow has become an expert in that ^^. (but now he's in gov so no more reason to complain Wink

).

by **Ward De Bever** 2011-10-25, 17:44

Jofroi wrote:
jamster737 wrote:I am proud i am doing something for belgium and not sitting there criticising everything anyone you dont like does.

That's the purpose of the opposition to criticize the gov . Gov is supported to work and the opposition is there to be able to complain if something is not done well, it is a kind of safety barrier to avoid abuses.

Shadow has become an expert in that ^^. (but now he's in gov so no more reason to complain ).

Yes, it's becoming the other way around now: the government complaining about the opposition Razz

Let's revert to common sense Wink

by **shadowukcs** 2011-10-25, 17:47

Jofroi wrote:
jamster737 wrote:I am proud i am doing something for belgium and not sitting there criticising everything anyone you dont like does.

That's the purpose of the opposition to criticize the gov . Gov is supported to work and the opposition is there to be able to complain if something is not done well, it is a kind of safety barrier to avoid abuses.

Shadow has become an expert in that ^^. (but now he's in gov so no more reason to complain ).

I'm already making preparations for next month. Gonna be fireworks

by **Ward De Bever** 2011-10-25, 17:49

shadowukcs wrote:
Jofroi wrote:
jamster737 wrote:I am proud i am doing something for belgium and not sitting there criticising everything anyone you dont like does.

That's the purpose of the opposition to criticize the gov . Gov is supported to work and the opposition is there to be able to complain if something is not done well, it is a kind of safety barrier to avoid abuses.

Shadow has become an expert in that ^^. (but now he's in gov so no more reason to complain ).

I'm already making preparations for next month. Gonna be fireworks

As long as you stop "hitting" against Belgium, I have no problems with fireworks from the opposition (again, should I be elected, but that's only speculation).

by **NLSP** 2011-10-25, 18:04

shadowukcs wrote:I'm already making preparations for next month. Gonna be fireworks

Oh, that is what you mean with asking #eNL to invade eBelgium.

by **shadowukcs** 2011-10-25, 20:25

NLSP wrote:
shadowukcs wrote:I'm already making preparations for next month. Gonna be fireworks
Oh, that is what you mean with asking #eNL to invade eBelgium.

Yes, NLSP... that is why I'm asking to invade eBelgium

where is our CP? 131411859342

by **Procuste** 2011-10-25, 21:23

Jofroi wrote:
That's the purpose of the opposition to criticize the gov . Gov is supported to work and the opposition is there to be able to complain if something is not done well, it is a kind of safety barrier to avoid abuses.

I agree. An active opposition is necessary to a healthy country.
Yet, it has to be a meaningful opposition too... nonsensical debates and personal attacks are of no use. Wink

As a side note - Shad : you should get a warning just for using a Stargate Atlantis pic. silent

by **RayCaptain** 2011-10-25, 23:44

Lol... I love gifs

Anyway, Jamster has been incredibly good as far as presidents go (and didn't even have an impeachment against him! That's saying something in eBe.)

by **MaryamQ** 2011-10-26, 06:03

Procuste wrote:
Jofroi wrote:
That's the purpose of the opposition to criticize the gov . Gov is supported to work and the opposition is there to be able to complain if something is not done well, it is a kind of safety barrier to avoid abuses.

I agree. An active opposition is necessary to a healthy country.
Yet, it has to be a meaningful opposition too... nonsensical debates and personal attacks are of no use.

I agree with this 100%. I wish people would learn to make the distinction.

And yes, Ray, a lack of impeachment does seem to be a remarkable achievement in eBe.

by **Ward De Bever** 2011-10-27, 00:26

http://www.erepublik.com/en/Belgium/law/86810

Monsieur Guillontine took the Congress gold, launched an impeachment and ran away. Sigh.

Impeachment is not an option anyway this term.

by **RayCaptain** 2011-10-27, 01:57

Ward De Bever wrote:http://www.erepublik.com/en/Belgium/law/86810

Monsieur Guillontine took the Congress gold, launched an impeachment and ran away. Sigh.

Impeachment is not an option anyway this term.

I quoted Ward? The end is nigh...

We need to make some new treason laws or something for people like Mikhail and MG who run away and cause hell as they do it...

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2011-10-27, 07:21

Ward De Bever wrote:http://www.erepublik.com/en/Belgium/law/86810

Monsieur Guillontine took the Congress gold, launched an impeachment and ran away. Sigh.

Impeachment is not an option anyway this term.

RayCaptain wrote:
We need to make some new treason laws or something for people like Mikhail and MG who run away and cause hell as they do it...

Treason for starting a impeachment? MG started a topic, there was a 24 hour discussion so it was technically by the rules. Treason because he left the country? Are people not free to move to another country when they want? Treason because he left with the 5 gold? Donating 5 gold isn't mandatory so he did nothing wrong.

Calling MG a traitor is just stupid, he did nothing wrong, nothing against the laws or constitution.

by **MaryamQ** 2011-10-27, 07:33

It was true it was not against the laws or constitution, and certainly it was within game rules, but you can hardly consider it to be an honorable action.

by **Ward De Bever** 2011-10-27, 07:34

Fhae: MG betraying his voters or not, this is still a silly impeachment for at least one good reason.

by **shadowukcs** 2011-10-27, 07:50

MaryamQ wrote:It was true it was not against the laws or constitution, and certainly it was within game rules, but you can hardly consider it to be an honorable action.

I don't agree with the motivations behind it (revenge and all) but I have no problem with the actions. It is well within in right to launch a impeachment, just like it's well within our right to vote for/against it (I voted no btw)

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2011-10-27, 08:07

Ward De Bever wrote:Fhae: MG betraying his voters or not, this is still a silly impeachment for at least one good reason.

How is it betrayal? Did he promised anything to his voters? Not that I know of.
Did he make it clear that he was planning to leave after this congress elections? Yes he did!
MG was very clear in his intention, I don't see how that is betraying the voters.

by **Ward De Bever** 2011-10-27, 08:10

... or not, ...

by Director9 2011-10-27, 08:55

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:

How is it betrayal? Did he promised anything to his voters? Not that I know of.
Did he make it clear that he was planning to leave after this congress elections? Yes he did!
MG was very clear in his intention, I don't see how that is betraying the voters.

Only clear if as a player you follow IRC/forum, the rest of eBe wouldn't have had a clue Smile

by **MaryamQ** 2011-10-27, 09:08

Exactly so, Director9. Also, even though it is allowed by game mechanics, to stand for election knowing you do not intend to serve even one day of your term is not an honorable act, imho. This is what I was referring to, shadow, not the impeachment, although I do not agree with that either. In a sense, taking that election and then running was stealing from someone else who actually wanted to be in Congress and serve eBelgium and did not make it.

by **shadowukcs** 2011-10-27, 09:17

MaryamQ wrote:Exactly so, Director9. Also, even though it is allowed by game mechanics, to stand for election knowing you do not intend to serve even one day of your term is not an honorable act, imho. This is what I was referring to, shadow, not the impeachment, although I do not agree with that either. In a sense, taking that election and then running was stealing from someone else who actually wanted to be in Congress and serve eBelgium and did not make it.

to be fair, if you're going to go to another country anyway, why not pick up an easy 5G on the way?

I would have done the same imo.

morals are overrated

by **M.Leviathin** 2011-10-27, 09:21

The medal and gold would have just gone to a person who wouldn't get involved on the forum, take part in debates, integrate with the community, and would only vote on party lines. Really. What active citizen in eBelgium was denied a spot in Congress that any of the larger parties could have given them if they weren't so obsessed with gaining the most seats?

Quantity>Quality is what I see going on here.

by **jamster737** 2011-10-27, 12:40

MaryamQ wrote:It was true it was not against the laws or constitution, and certainly it was within game rules, but you can hardly consider it to be an honorable action.

i am sad he would do that as people who are active never got into congress because of him

by **Cotarius** 2011-10-27, 20:07

Like a good commie he gave the gold to the people, he didn't say when Wink

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