Who to vote for?

by wim vercauteren 2012-03-04, 01:04

I'm thinking about voting for my own believs... the goals placed by my Party President aren't my goals. I'm thinking about voting for volsem since he's goals are more the goals that i believe in.

Who should we vote for and why?

by **M.Leviathin** 2012-03-04, 01:11

Did you read the articles they published?

by **Johny English A** 2012-03-04, 01:12

I don't really think that's a debate to have in here...

There are other places on the forum (like the political section) where it is eventualy more apropriate to discuss something like that...

I think candidates (some of them) have made their point in there;

by **El1teBE** 2012-03-04, 01:13

Johny English A wrote:I don't really think that's a debate to have in here...

There are other places on the forum (like the political section) where it is eventualy more apropriate to discuss something like that...

I think candidates (some of them) have made their point in there;

Agree^^ This is not a congress discussion!

by wim vercauteren 2012-03-04, 01:15

Johny English A wrote:I don't really think that's a debate to have in here...

There are other places on the forum (like the political section) where it is eventualy more apropriate to discuss something like that...

I think candidates (some of them) have made their point in there;

I think that debate should be done here or their... doesn't matter.

My point is... take for example goopy pants

This ellection he want's to increas population with 100%, previous ellections this was 1% ??? Why's that??

by wim vercauteren 2012-03-04, 01:17

M.Leviathin wrote:Did you read the articles they published?

Yes..., but i rather debate on that in the open.

by **El1teBE** 2012-03-04, 01:19

wim vercauteren wrote:
M.Leviathin wrote:Did you read the articles they published?

Yes..., but i rather debate on that in the open.

You read their articles? Where are they? Can you show it to me, please??? Rolling Eyes

by wim vercauteren 2012-03-04, 01:19

The goopy 180 goal turn is a congres debate on itselfs. Smile

by **Karakoran** 2012-03-04, 01:23

If the Admins were so inclined, I'm sure they could easily move the thread. But that's not really the point of the thread.

by **El1teBE** 2012-03-04, 01:27

I still cannot find any articles published scratch

by **MaryamQ** 2012-03-04, 02:45

I agree this thread would be more appropriate in another part of the forum and hope the next available admin will move it.

With regard to the goals, I would not take them too seriously. If you check, you will see that Goopy has set a goal to gain one additional region - the District of Columbia, which I am quite certain he does not expect could ever happen.

With regard to reading articles, that would be quite an impressive trick. GoopyPants and Bruno Cnudde do not have newspapers. David Cnudde's most recent article was 41 days ago, Volsem's was 60 days ago, and jamster's was 73 days ago. Not surprisingly, none of these concerned the current election. This leads to the conclusion that the only information you are going to find about what they intend to do as CP can be found right here on this forum. I know it's not much, but unfortunately, it's all we have.

by goopypants 2012-03-04, 04:17

my cp game goals are not to be taken seriously, as they have no effect on the game afaik.

by **MaryamQ** 2012-03-04, 04:23

Indeed, they don't have any real effect, except a small in-game recognition if the country meets its goals. A word to the wise, though: Wim is not the only player who looks at these goals and takes them into consideration when voting.

by **Pieter557** 2012-03-04, 09:22

moved to general discussions.

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2012-03-04, 09:40

goopy is the only serious candidate, others are or too inactive or have no experience. in not telling you should to vote but volsem or knudde as president wouldnt be good for belgium.

by **El1teBE** 2012-03-04, 11:43

MaryamQ wrote:
With regard to reading articles, that would be quite an impressive trick. GoopyPants and Bruno Cnudde do not have newspapers. David Cnudde's most recent article was 41 days ago, Volsem's was 60 days ago, and jamster's was 73 days ago. Not surprisingly, none of these concerned the current election.

So, which articles did Wim read? scratch

by **MaryamQ** 2012-03-04, 12:10

el1temkd wrote:
MaryamQ wrote:
With regard to reading articles, that would be quite an impressive trick. GoopyPants and Bruno Cnudde do not have newspapers. David Cnudde's most recent article was 41 days ago, Volsem's was 60 days ago, and jamster's was 73 days ago. Not surprisingly, none of these concerned the current election.
So, which articles did Wim read?

I don't know, but would also be happy to see them.

by wim vercauteren 2012-03-04, 12:19

I have read som of volsem's articels and nohjis ... the rest of the candidates aren't telling uss that much... therefore i started this thread. Maybe they can find time to tell uss some of their iedeas here...

Nohjis

http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/the-evening-s-standard-264221/1

Volsem

http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/nouvelle-aube-248324/1

by wim vercauteren 2012-03-04, 12:20

Jamster times

http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/jamster-times-216383/1

by **MaryamQ** 2012-03-04, 12:36

Nohjis is not running this time, but told us in detail about his plans when he was. Volsem has not written a recent article, nor has jamster.

by wim vercauteren 2012-03-04, 12:48

MaryamQ wrote:Nohjis is not running this time, but told us in detail about his plans when he was. Volsem has not written a recent article, nor has jamster.

I know angela.. Laughing

therefore i started this thread Surprised

Someone ho is running for CP should at least write something (a paper or article on this forum) iff not he shouldn't run for CP!!!

The persons ho are running are nothing compared to critically and nohjis... but we need to chose!

by **NLSP** 2012-03-04, 14:06

It is rather strange that none of the current candidates have taken a stand about joining a alliance, this is something that could turn tens of voters to them Smile

I am willing to endorse any candidate who is in favour of joining an alliance!

by **MaryamQ** 2012-03-04, 14:25

Well, the only one on the ballot who has told us anything at all about his policies is Goopy, and sorry, NLSP, but I believe his stand is for status quo, i.e., neutrality.

by **NLSP** 2012-03-04, 14:26

if he would change his opinion, eBe could become much more lively Smile

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2012-03-04, 14:29

MaryamQ wrote:Well, the only one on the ballot who has told us anything at all about his policies is Goopy, and sorry, NLSP, but I believe his stand is for status quo, i.e., neutrality.

Even Goopy policy was saying nothing, only thing he wants he keep things going no plans no vision for the future. I find it disappointing that none of the candidates really have any vision for the country, no plans it shows no leadership to me.

by wim vercauteren 2012-03-04, 16:26

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
MaryamQ wrote:Well, the only one on the ballot who has told us anything at all about his policies is Goopy, and sorry, NLSP, but I believe his stand is for status quo, i.e., neutrality.

Even Goopy policy was saying nothing, only thing he wants he keep things going no plans no vision for the future. I find it disappointing that none of the candidates really have any vision for the country, no plans it shows no leadership to me.

2!!

by goopypants 2012-03-04, 19:12

you're confusing a lack of vision with an understanding of the reality of eBelgium and an unwillingness to make grandiose promises.

If we wish to maintain our neutrality, we can't join an alliance. If we decide to join an alliance, the only real protection we have, our neutrality, will be gone.

As things currently are, I wouldn't support an alliance. Sure, if things change (one of the alliances decides we are de facto members of the other alliance and invades us), and I'm not saying never, but running on a pro-One or Teden platform is not something I'm willing to do.

by **El1teBE** 2012-03-05, 00:29

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
MaryamQ wrote:Well, the only one on the ballot who has told us anything at all about his policies is Goopy, and sorry, NLSP, but I believe his stand is for status quo, i.e., neutrality.

Even Goopy policy was saying nothing, only thing he wants he keep things going no plans no vision for the future. I find it disappointing that none of the candidates really have any vision for the country, no plans it shows no leadership to me.

Unfortunately!!! And the ones with vision and plans for better future are always in the wrong place or in the wrong time Sad

by **MaryamQ** 2012-03-05, 00:37

I have to say, I think Goopy gave a reasonable answer about his stance on neutrality, and while personally I would like to have heard more about his intentions in other areas, indeed, vision does need to be tempered with reality. In any case, we have to work with what we have, and Goopy remains the best option on the current ballot, imo.

by **El1teBE** 2012-03-05, 00:41

MaryamQ wrote:I have to say, I think Goopy gave a reasonable answer about his stance on neutrality, and while personally I would like to have heard more about his intentions in other areas, indeed, vision does need to be tempered with reality. In any case, we have to work with what we have, and Goopy remains the best option on the current ballot, imo.

Agree on that too! Goopy for CP!!!

by goopypants 2012-03-05, 01:59

Still taking volunteers for a cabinet. So far I have MoFA/VP.

by **NLSP** 2012-03-05, 04:17

goopypants wrote:you're confusing a lack of vision with an understanding of the reality of eBelgium and an unwillingness to make grandiose promises.

If we wish to maintain our neutrality, we can't join an alliance. If we decide to join an alliance, the only real protection we have, our neutrality, will be gone.

As things currently are, I wouldn't support an alliance. Sure, if things change (one of the alliances decides we are de facto members of the other alliance and invades us), and I'm not saying never, but running on a pro-One or Teden platform is not something I'm willing to do.

are you willing to do a great inquiry with eBelgian citizens about siding with an alliance ?

by wim vercauteren 2012-03-05, 05:17

goopypants wrote:you're confusing a lack of vision with an understanding of the reality of eBelgium and an unwillingness to make grandiose promises.

If we wish to maintain our neutrality, we can't join an alliance. If we decide to join an alliance, the only real protection we have, our neutrality, will be gone.

As things currently are, I wouldn't support an alliance. Sure, if things change (one of the alliances decides we are de facto members of the other alliance and invades us), and I'm not saying never, but running on a pro-One or Teden platform is not something I'm willing to do.

Look @ Bolivia Goopy they are a neutral country 2, soon they won't have a country. Making an alliance for self protection is a good thing.

by wim vercauteren 2012-03-05, 05:18

Bolivia haves zero allies.

by wim vercauteren 2012-03-05, 05:18

Coopy i won't be voting for you... sorry bro... i think you have a dangerous vision.

by **Olv007** 2012-03-05, 06:45

On the question who to vote for: I really don't know Neutral

None of the candidates seems active enough to be CP. That's a daytime job!

by **M.Leviathin** 2012-03-05, 06:45

> implying Belgium can become a lively place long-term
> implying that an alliance would want Belgium

Who to vote for? Laughing_meme_guy_by_vixenwolfie-d485kw0

Who to vote for? Laughing_meme_guy_by_vixenwolfie-d485kw0

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2012-03-05, 07:17

wim vercauteren wrote:Bolivia haves zero allies.

Bolivia is/was as far as I know under PTO of argentina, they are far from neutral probably

by goopypants 2012-03-05, 07:49

NLSP wrote:are you willing to do a great inquiry with eBelgian citizens about siding with an alliance ?

run a poll and sound out the idea. I don't think even half of the poll-takers would want to commit to one alliance, and probably of those half they would be at least partially split between possible alliances.

if it is the will of the people that eBelgium commit formally to an alliance, why has the CP and government been working carefully (especially the last couple of months) to restore our being perceived as neutral?

And I'm not seeing voices clamoring for this, just you. But sure, set up a poll and show me some facts Very Happy

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2012-03-05, 08:02

NLSP just wants us to join a proONE alliance, if we don't he'll cry

Who to vote for? Dawsons-ugly-cry

Spoiler:

by **M.Leviathin** 2012-03-05, 08:27

lol@wantingtojoinONE

by **NLSP** 2012-03-05, 09:03

goopypants wrote:
NLSP wrote:are you willing to do a great inquiry with eBelgian citizens about siding with an alliance ?

run a poll and sound out the idea. I don't think even half of the poll-takers would want to commit to one alliance, and probably of those half they would be at least partially split between possible alliances.

if it is the will of the people that eBelgium commit formally to an alliance, why has the CP and government been working carefully (especially the last couple of months) to restore our being perceived as neutral?

And I'm not seeing voices clamoring for this, just you. But sure, set up a poll and show me some facts

so, you are not willing if you are CP to find it out by making a poll :O
Is there actually something that you are willing to do if you are CP?

by **BrunoCND** 2012-03-05, 09:08

It's better to do a poll for this question for all eBelgians

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2012-03-05, 09:42

NLSP wrote:so, you are not willing if you are CP to find it out by making a poll :O
Is there actually something that you are willing to do if you are CP?

Choosing either alliance ONE or Terra/Eden wouldn't be in Belgium's best interest. You know that the (active) citizens are split between pro ONE and pro TEDEN. To choose either side would only alienate the other side of the citizens. What would happen is or the other side would keep fighting against the side we choose making us utterly a unreliable ally seeing half our citizens are fighting against our allies. The other option is that a good part of the active citizens would leave.

Either way it would be a loose/loose situation to choose either side in the conflict.
Thus a poll would serve no purpose.

by **Nohjis** 2012-03-05, 11:12

goopypants wrote:my cp game goals are not to be taken seriously, as they have no effect on the game afaik.

All national goals have been accomplished.Belgium is victorious!

Ofcourse there's effects ! We'ld win... lol!

by **MaryamQ** 2012-03-05, 11:19

Congrats, Nohjis. Wink

by Lisa Van Neste 2012-03-05, 11:23

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:goopy is the only serious candidate, others are or too inactive or have no experience. in not telling you should to vote but volsem or knudde as president wouldnt be good for belgium.

+1

by **Sammy Tanghe** 2012-03-05, 12:42

I know only one thing:

when I wanted to vote for goopy just, I got a captcha with as message "irushin chancellor;"

clearly this is a sign ...

by **MaryamQ** 2012-03-05, 13:20

I will vouch for that, Sammy. When I went to work for NLSP, I got "Missionary" in the captcha.

by **Boklevski** 2012-03-05, 16:07

I got a captcha I could hardly type correctly when voting Goopy... is that a sign as well? Razz

Must say it crossed my mind for a moment that I should have ran as well for CP...

... I'm glad it disappeared quickly again... Razz

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