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Post by Zoldhangya on 2012-08-02, 15:09

Hi! I want to be a citizen in your country and help to your community because in eHungary there are a lot of selfish and corrupt people in the government and in the political parties too. I am not a PTOer but this is doesn't mean that I won't run for congress in the future.
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Post by AndreasC on 2012-08-02, 15:15

Currently you have been rejected for citizenship, this means you probably won't get accepted.
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Post by Zoldhangya on 2012-08-02, 15:32

Immigration fee is a real thing or just one of your congress member want to make a scam?
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Post by Requiem Domine on 2012-08-02, 15:34

Zoldhangya wrote:Immigration fee is a real thing or just one of your congress member want to make a scam?
There is no such thing as an immigration fee here. It is just a scammer.
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Post by Viridi on 2012-08-02, 15:34

I apologise, but yes we do have some silly congress members who will attempt to take money from you. However, the citizenship committee has decided to reject your application.

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Post by Zoldhangya on 2012-08-02, 15:40

NLSP to Zoldhangya | yesterday

ofcourse, if you donate the immigration fee of 7 gold to me

He/she was the scammer.

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Post by NLSP on 2012-08-02, 15:41

Zoldhangya wrote:NLSP to Zoldhangya | yesterday

ofcourse, if you donate the immigration fee of 7 gold to me

He/she was the scammer.

yep that's me Smile
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Post by Zoldhangya on 2012-08-02, 15:43

If i make a request again what should i do to get citizenship?
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Post by NLSP on 2012-08-02, 15:48

Zoldhangya wrote:If i make a request again what should i do to get citizenship?
not paying any gold that anyone asks and report who ask you gold (paying gold makes you rather highly suspicious)
furthermore, present yourself a bit on the forum and talk to immigration people
convincing some trusted eBe citizens that you are a good guy, also helps Smile

oh and patience, lots of patience
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Post by MCKitkat on 2012-08-02, 15:50

NLSP wrote:
Zoldhangya wrote:If i make a request again what should i do to get citizenship?
not paying any gold that anyone asks and report who ask you gold (paying gold makes you rather highly suspicious)
furthermore, present yourself a bit on the forum and talk to immigration people
convincing some trusted eBe citizens that you are a good guy, also helps Smile

oh and patience, lots of patience

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Post by Zoldhangya on 2012-08-02, 15:52

Do you have an IRC chat room for eBelgians?
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Post by NLSP on 2012-08-02, 15:59

yes: #eBrussels
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Post by shadowukcs on 2012-08-02, 16:20

NLSP wrote:yes: #eBrussels



on Rizon (coz I think the hun chan is on Qnet)
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Post by Zoldhangya on 2012-08-02, 17:17

shadowukcs wrote:
NLSP wrote:yes: #eBrussels



on Rizon (coz I think the hun chan is on Qnet)

We are using Rizon.
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Post by shadowukcs on 2012-08-02, 17:46

aah kk, my bad.


Anyway, this country is completely batsh*t insane when it comes to immigration. They go beyond paranoia and see a PTO threat in everyone. It's f*cking ridiculous.

The best think you can do tho is just hang around in #eBrussels for a while. That way they get to know you a bit and you generally get accepted.
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Post by Zoldhangya on 2012-08-02, 18:05

shadowukcs wrote:aah kk, my bad.


Anyway, this country is completely batsh*t insane when it comes to immigration. They go beyond paranoia and see a PTO threat in everyone. It's f*cking ridiculous.

The best think you can do tho is just hang around in #eBrussels for a while. That way they get to know you a bit and you generally get accepted.

I can understand them. There are a lot of PTOers in this world unfortunately. Anyway, thanks for the advice.
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Post by Zoldhangya on 2012-08-04, 12:07

"We are sorry to inform you that your citizenship request has been denied. You can apply for citizenship again in 5 days."

I will try again:)
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Post by tommot on 2012-08-04, 12:50

I don't know if anyone is willing or able to answer this:

Why was Zoldhangya's Citizenship-request denied?

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Post by shadowukcs on 2012-08-04, 12:53

tommot wrote:I don't know if anyone is willing or able to answer this:

Why was Zoldhangya's Citizenship-request denied?


because eBE congress is filled with paranoid retards who, in a typical catch 22'ish fashion, deny everyone access to CS unless they've already held it before.
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Post by MCKitkat on 2012-08-04, 12:58

tommot wrote:I don't know if anyone is willing or able to answer this:

Why was Zoldhangya's Citizenship-request denied?

From unproductive in eBelgium to only here for war module, I won't post more, but what I can say after some days in IRC Chat:

He is doing good.
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Post by tommot on 2012-08-04, 13:18

Although your answers could be constructive they do not answer my question.
I don't know if anyone is willing or able to answer this:

Why was Zoldhangya's Citizenship-request denied?

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Post by shadowukcs on 2012-08-04, 13:37

tommot wrote:Although your answers could be constructive they do not answer my question.
I don't know if anyone is willing or able to answer this:

Why was Zoldhangya's Citizenship-request denied?


I gave you an answer


maybe not the answer you wanted or expected to hear but the genuine answer that lies at the foundation of 90% of the CS denials here nonetheless.

Every time a CS request is made by someone who doesn't know someone else in congress, he automatically gets rejected, just because "he's unknown and therefore is most definitely can be a PTO'er"


like I said: "paranoid retardedness", fear of the unknown, and blind conservatism is the answer to your question
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Post by boer jan on 2012-08-04, 16:21

your completely wrong, circumstances did raising doubts, because just before someone was accepted without knowledge of congress, therefore and some other points it was rejected.
But it is true that our concept about CS requests must be changed and so we are working on this matter right now.

oh, by the way, do not now for sure about being retarded Rolling Eyes , but some portion of paranoid is healthy
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Post by shadowukcs on 2012-08-04, 16:30

boer jan wrote:your completely wrong, circumstances did raising doubts, because just before someone was accepted without knowledge of congress, therefore and some other points it was rejected.

i'm not wrong. 90% of the cases in eBE boil down to paranoia and fear of PTO. Just because something has a slightly difference giftwrap around it doesn't mean it's different.



boer jan wrote:
But it is true that our concept about CS requests must be changed and so we are working on this matter right now.

oh, by the way, do not now for sure about being retarded Rolling Eyes , but some portion of paranoid is healthy

paranoia is never healthy

caution is healthy, paranoia isn't.
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Post by NLSP on 2012-08-05, 15:30

fact: eBe is paranoid
fact: there are reasons to show caution in cs applications
fact: people will always disagree if we show enough or to much caution in different circumstances
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Post by shadowukcs on 2012-08-05, 22:49

fact: we've never had a PTO
fact: we never will
fact: by being a bigoted North-Korean-"we let no -one in"-state, you'll always be small


Sometimes greatness requires taking risks. Something this country has a utter fear from.
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Post by MaryamQ on 2012-08-06, 05:51

As for never having a PTO, we had an attempt by Macedonians late last year, another by G50 this year. I can't speak for this particular request as I can't see in the private Congress area, but not all denials are unjustified paranoia.
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Post by Viridi on 2012-08-06, 07:20

But most are, I think.
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Post by Lily Jayne Summers on 2012-08-06, 10:10

shadowukcs wrote:
tommot wrote:I don't know if anyone is willing or able to answer this:

Why was Zoldhangya's Citizenship-request denied?


because eBE congress is filled with paranoid retards who, in a typical catch 22'ish fashion, deny everyone access to CS unless they've already held it before.

Don't be ridiculous.

If you want to provide criticism of the immigration system, do it constructively.
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Post by NLSP on 2012-08-06, 10:40

Let's be honest: some people underestimate and other people overestimate. We have had some (minor) attempts and there has been often reason to be cautious.
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Post by shadowukcs on 2012-08-06, 12:33

MaryamQ wrote:As for never having a PTO, we had an attempt by Macedonians late last year, another by G50 this year. I can't speak for this particular request as I can't see in the private Congress area, but not all denials are unjustified paranoia.

>implying those where actual threats


Those guys never stood a chance to even influence the country, even if we had a open border policy.

The way it goes here in Belgium is:
citizen from country A asks citizenship
1 day later citizen from the same country also ask citizenship
half congress: OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! IT'S A PTO!!!!!
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Post by kristof von on 2012-09-07, 00:37

Well reading this thread is very disheartening! Lets hope i fare a little better.
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