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New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by tommot on 2013-07-04, 16:23

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By ROBERT WIELAARD and MIKE CORDER Associated Press BRUSSELS July 4, 2013 (AP) wrote:Belgian lawmakers on Thursday seized on King Albert's decision to abdicate to call for his son and heir, Prince Philippe, to become a purely ceremonial monarch.

The king's Wednesday announcement that that he will step down on his country's national holiday, July 21, and hand the throne to his less popular son has fanned long-simmering debate in Belgium about reining in the few powers the king still wields.

"We now have momentum to adapt the monarchy to the 21st century," Jan Jambon of the nationalist New Flemish Alliance told Parliament during a special meeting to discuss the abdication. "Let's grab this chance with both hands."

The Belgian monarchy is already largely ceremonial, but plays a key role in nudging politicians to make compromises in post-election government formation talks. Under the constitution, the monarch must also give his royal assent to laws passed by Parliament and can grant amnesty to criminals.

Albert's reign has been marked by a growing rift between Belgium's French and Dutch-speaking camps. A Belgian breakup was averted in 2011 — after a political stalemate lasting 353 days — with a reform deal giving each side far-reaching self-rule powers.

Jambon, whose party wants a Flemish, Dutch-speaking republic, called the king's powers "feudal legacies" that should be scrapped.

The monarchy gets a warmer welcome in Wallonia, Belgium's French-speaking south, than in Dutch-speaking Flanders, Belgium's more populous and economically more powerful north. But even moderate Christian Democrats, Liberals and Socialists in Dutch-speaking Belgium are pushing for reforming the monarchy.

"The monarchy really has no place in modern democracies, but it enjoys broad support in Belgium. The question is: how can the monarchy fulfill its role in the new Belgium?," said Wouter Beke, leader of the Dutch-speaking Christian Democrats.

Prime Minister Elio di Rupo praised Albert's 20-year reign and said the new monarch would help Belgium further bounce back from the 2011 political crisis. "Now that we are getting a new king, we can face the future serenely, full of confidence and optimistically," he said.

Di Rupo sparked hilarity as he informed Parliament about his abdication discussions with King Albert. He said after those Tuesday talks, "I contacted Prince Philippe to inform him about the situation." The comment drew laughter because it sounded as if the crown prince was unaware of his father's abdication.

In his first public comment on the abdication, Prince Philippe paid tribute to his 79-year-old father's 20-year reign. The 53-year-old prince, who is seen by many in his nation of 10.5 million as awkward and reclusive, says he is conscious "of the responsibility that befalls me."

Philippe will become the second crown prince to ascend to a European throne this year, following in the footsteps of Willem-Alexander, who became king of the neighboring Netherlands on April 30 when his mother, Beatrix, abdicated.
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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by Yannis on 2013-07-04, 22:29

All hail Philippe, I'm sure he'll do well, Albert was also harshly criticized in his beginnings and turned out to be a jewel of a king.

As to Jan Jambon, I don't know him but at the moment all his quotes I heard are utmost crap to me Razz(Wasn't he also the one doing ridiculous at Congress with a hateful speech where he mimicked a rabbit when the other Flemish Parties finally came to an agreement with the Walloon ones?)
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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by Cotarius on 2013-07-05, 09:33

Viva la republiek
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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by Boklevski on 2013-07-05, 10:21

Yannis wrote:All hail Philippe, I'm sure he'll do well, Albert was also harshly criticized in his beginnings and turned out to be a jewel of a king.

Ah. You're Wallon? Razz

(Disclaimer: Just guessing based on the news I read here. I'm Dutch, so I don't have any feelings towards the whole issue. Wink)
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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by cliffie on 2013-07-05, 14:10

good luck
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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by Viridi on 2013-07-11, 19:06

i didn't know belgium decided to have their national day on my birthday

how sweet
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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by NLSP on 2013-07-11, 19:26

Yannis wrote:All hail Philippe, I'm sure he'll do well
well, it is not that you need any skills at all to be a good king ...
so yeah, I'm also sure he'll do well ^^
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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by Beaver on 2013-07-12, 08:58

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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by tommot on 2013-07-12, 11:19

Razz


oh and correcting a big mistake everyone(all over the world) keeps on making.

It is NOT Philippe I........

But it is Filip. (Huge difference)

and the "I" does not apply until there is a second crown prince called Filip.

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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by NLSP on 2013-07-12, 11:20

and I thought it was 'fluppe'
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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by tommot on 2013-07-12, 11:28

Jommeke was wondering where he went to... Razz

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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by g30rg14 on 2013-07-12, 12:42

tommot wrote:Razz


oh and correcting a big mistake everyone(all over the world) keeps on making.

It is NOT Philippe I........

But it is Filip. (Huge difference)

and the "I" does not apply until there is a second crown prince called Filip.

It is Philippe I to be honest... He is registered in the population registers as Philippe and he has chosen to be Philippe instead of Filip once he will become the king of Belgium clown 
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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by tommot on 2013-07-12, 12:59

where did you find that info?
I can't find it anywhere???

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Post by tommot on 2013-07-12, 13:02

i found new info:
Het zag er even naar uit dat kroonprins Filip in naam enkel koning Philippe zou worden. Nu blijkt dat iets genuanceerder. De koning moet alle wetten ondertekenen. Elke wet wordt afgesloten met een vaste formule, waarop de naam van de koning volgt. Onder de Nederlandstalige teksten zal toch ‘koning Filip’ gaan staan en onder de Franstalige teksten ‘koning Philippe’.
Uiteraard is het wel zo dat de koning al die wetten maar één keer zal handtekenen en dat zal waarschijnlijk wel met ‘koning Philippe’ zijn.
so Filip is correct.
But the other one as well. Smile

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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by g30rg14 on 2013-07-12, 14:00

We are both right!
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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by tommot on 2013-07-12, 14:06

And they think that's not going to create confusion.

which signature will be considered valid and which would not???

AAArgh, please ignore that.
There is already enough politics to worry about in this game.

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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by g30rg14 on 2013-07-12, 14:27

Welcome to Belgium my friend, the land of political confusion
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Re: New king/nieuwe koning/nouveau roi en Belgique

Post by Pertazeta on 2013-08-08, 17:36

"[dat nigel farage quote]"
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