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Post by Theneka 2010-12-29, 12:27

GO BOKKIIIIIIII Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Post by Theneka 2010-12-29, 12:29

http://www.erepublik.com/en/Belgium/law/64214
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Post by aVegan 2010-12-29, 12:38

Printing some BEF wouldn't be a bad idea. It's easy gold for the state and I am not sure at all that the PEG will drop so drastically after the war.
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Post by Theneka 2010-12-29, 12:55

I doubt the food companies will lower their prices. So probably not Smile
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2010-12-29, 19:59

Theneka wrote:I doubt the food companies will lower their prices. So probably not Smile

Oh they will
Question and demand

=> high prices => Less times fighting => Less consuming of food => Food stocks => Food companies forced to "battle" each others to have the lowest price

OR

=> high prices => More companies coming to Belgium or having an Import license => More companies => Lower price
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Post by Sammy Tanghe 2011-01-06, 12:46

bokkie

the bef goes TOO wild now: some offers on 0.028 now!
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Post by Theneka 2011-01-06, 12:55

Time to sell some BEF Smile
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Post by frostie 2011-01-06, 13:10

Theneka wrote:Time to sell some BEF Smile
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2011-01-06, 14:11

frostie wrote:
Theneka wrote:Time to sell some BEF Smile
+1
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But the gov has to start putting money on the market right now!! (after my offer is sold ofcourse Twisted Evil )
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Post by Sammy Tanghe 2011-01-06, 14:40

I just asked TR (he has acces to NBB now) to put some bef on the mparket at a 0.022 rate. We'll lower things slowly.
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2011-01-06, 14:54

Sammy Tanghe wrote:I just asked TR (he has acces to NBB now) to put some bef on the mparket at a 0.022 rate. We'll lower things slowly.

How much money is available to put on the market?
Because it needs to be more then 2000BEF, more like 15000BEF
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Post by Boklevski 2011-01-07, 00:04

Glenn Wauters wrote:
Sammy Tanghe wrote:I just asked TR (he has acces to NBB now) to put some bef on the mparket at a 0.022 rate. We'll lower things slowly.

How much money is available to put on the market?
Because it needs to be more then 2000BEF, more like 15000BEF

Agreed.

I have put the last BEF in NBB-BNB on the market. However, to continue stabilizing the exchange rates, I think we should print additional money. I have moved 90 GOLD to the state accounts, which - combined with the 10 GOLD that was in it - should enable us to print 20,000 BEF.

I hope a Congress member is willing to create a proposal to print this money (if needed after a certain amount of time of debating here, although I'd like to stress that the sooner we get it, the better it is Wink ).

If more money is needed, we can raise another proposal in time. I'd rather take this easy and safe, than quick.
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Post by Sammy Tanghe 2011-01-07, 00:55

pity I can't do it :p

can one congressman please put forth the proposal of printing 20 000 bef? this topic has been open for a long while and I think we all have good trust in the capacities of our MoF Wink

(P.S. bokkie, NBB's p/w changed due to regime change, I'll PM you the new p/w now)
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Post by Xgentis Lempereur 2011-01-07, 01:10

I put 100 BEF at 0.022 five mnute later all was sold lol.
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Post by M.Leviathin 2011-01-07, 03:00

IDK if I did it right, but lookie lookie: http://www.erepublik.com/en/Belgium/law/64719
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Post by Xgentis Lempereur 2011-01-07, 03:02

Illegal proposal I'll vote no.
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Post by M.Leviathin 2011-01-07, 03:06

I feel like Theneka now, but OH WELL.
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Post by Theneka 2011-01-07, 11:58

Illegal proposal, I voted no. Sorry, just following standard procedures...
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Post by Sammy Tanghe 2011-01-07, 14:03

nothing illegal about it tbfh, since this topic is open for already a long wile, but meh ...

bureaucrats Wink
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Post by Boklevski 2011-01-07, 14:09

Sammy Tanghe wrote:nothing illegal about it tbfh, since this topic is open for already a long wile, but meh ...

bureaucrats Wink

+1... This debate was opening already on Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:17 am.

If you guys REALLY want to stick to the rules without looking at the situation, at least apply them LITERALLY. Razz

Thanks for raising, M.Leviathin!

PS: I hereby also open the debate to move the printed money from the state accounts to NBB-BNB when they are in. Just to stick to the rules...
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Post by Xgentis Lempereur 2011-01-07, 14:13

This is not the debate aera if you want to debate about something go to the right forum.
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Post by Sammy Tanghe 2011-01-07, 14:20

[quote="Boklevski"]
Sammy Tanghe wrote:PS: I hereby also open the debate to move the printed money from the state accounts to NBB-BNB when they are in. Just to stick to the rules...

as MoF, you have full control over the NBB-BNB. Last time you didn't need to ask acces for this either, so there's a precedent ...
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Post by Xgentis Lempereur 2011-01-07, 14:27

I have an idea I will buy the BEF when it's cheap and sell it at a higher price Twisted Evil
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Post by Theneka 2011-01-07, 14:29

You're to late u know...
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Post by Xgentis Lempereur 2011-01-07, 14:30

Who care?
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Post by Theneka 2011-01-07, 14:38

M.Leviathin wrote:IDK if I did it right, but lookie lookie: http://www.erepublik.com/en/Belgium/law/64719

U do know that's an ilegal proposal O.O How dare u propose urself as CP :p
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Post by Antiko 2011-01-07, 15:14

these things are really hard to propose, mostly they are needed pretty fast.
But its more appropriate when MoF proposes it when its really needed.
The MoF should say if he needs extra BEF otherwise we shouldnt do this.
Btw how did we get 100g on the company account to do this?
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Post by M.Leviathin 2011-01-07, 15:32

Borrowing it from China.

Theneka wrote:
M.Leviathin wrote:IDK if I did it right, but lookie lookie: http://www.erepublik.com/en/Belgium/law/64719

U do know that's an ilegal proposal O.O How dare u propose urself as CP :p

I am not a crook!
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2011-01-07, 17:12

M.Leviathin wrote:Borrowing it from China.

Theneka wrote:
M.Leviathin wrote:IDK if I did it right, but lookie lookie: http://www.erepublik.com/en/Belgium/law/64719

U do know that's an ilegal proposal O.O How dare u propose urself as CP :p

I am not a crook!

Hey Leviathan, I just came up with something
Maybe

Very maybe

The admins will have brought Luxemburg into the game by then !!! Twisted Evil
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Post by Theneka 2011-01-07, 17:41

It'll be fight for who gets luxemburg the first then :p
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Post by Mikhail Alexander 2011-01-08, 06:16

Just started a transfer for 99 AUD to the NBB-BNB.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/Belgium/law/64818
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Post by Boklevski 2011-01-09, 12:24

Could a congress member please propose to donate the maximum possible amount from the State Accounts to our national bank NBB-BNB? (24,000 BEF should be possible)

Thanks! Smile
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2011-01-09, 12:30

What if we simply addapt, and go to a 1=0.021 rate?
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Post by Jorne Reynders 2011-01-09, 13:04

Glenn Wauters wrote:What if we simply addapt, and go to a 1=0.021 rate?
i would prefer 0.020
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Post by Boklevski 2011-01-09, 13:10

Well, with our new iron resources and the companies and higher wages coming with that, we should see a higher demand for BEF (and I think we are already seeing that at this moment).

We have seen that as soon as NBB-BNB stops keeping the rate at 0.019 BEF, that is rises to 0.02 or even 0.021.

Therefore, I could support to set the rate a bit higher (for example at 0.02 BEF), although we should be careful that we aren't going to be too expensive for our export sector.
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Post by Mikhail Alexander 2011-01-09, 13:13

Boklevski wrote:Could a congress member please propose to donate the maximum possible amount from the State Accounts to our national bank NBB-BNB? (24,000 BEF should be possible)

Thanks! Smile

Done!

http://www.erepublik.com/en/Belgium/law/64920
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Post by draganw 2011-01-09, 13:27

How we can transfer 24.000bef when we on state account have 2.790 at the moment?
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Post by Sammy Tanghe 2011-01-09, 14:23

the money that gets transferred is not in the state account while being voted about.

it is the same when countries sign an MPP with each other or ask gold in exchange for peace. Then the gold also gets laid aside while waiting for the outcome of the vote. If the vote is no, then it returns to the state account.
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Post by Mikhail Alexander 2011-01-09, 14:27

Sammy Tanghe wrote:the money that gets transferred is not in the state account while being voted about.

it is the same when countries sign an MPP with each other or ask gold in exchange for peace. Then the gold also gets laid aside while waiting for the outcome of the vote. If the vote is no, then it returns to the state account.

Like what Canada did with the UK with a Peace Proposal, the UK had like 150 gold in the treasury so Canada asked for a peace proposal for the 150 gold, they couldn't use it for 24 hours.
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Post by ThomasRED 2011-01-09, 17:15

Boklevski wrote:Well, with our new iron resources and the companies and higher wages coming with that, we should see a higher demand for BEF (and I think we are already seeing that at this moment).

We have seen that as soon as NBB-BNB stops keeping the rate at 0.019 BEF, that is rises to 0.02 or even 0.021.

Therefore, I could support to set the rate a bit higher (for example at 0.02 BEF), although we should be careful that we aren't going to be too expensive for our export sector.

Good to hear, that the State continue his work to get back our original rate, at 0.019... (and see if later it become 0.02 naturally by the laws of market).
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