eBelgium and Int'l Relations

by Oboacer 2012-01-15, 02:45

Hello Everyone,

I was rather curious on the current situation of eBelgium and the international community. I have understood that this little European nation has traditionally a "neutral" country but on occasion has signed MPP's with ONE nations.

So I was curious how your nation has managed to retain this policy, as we in eNZ also sought this during our early years but were eventually forced to take a very pro-ONE policy.

Cheers,
Oboacer

by **Jofroi** 2012-01-15, 06:55

Our policy is neutrality and thus we sign MPP with both sides.

However, TEDEN attacked us several times last year and thus at some moments we had to take only ONE MPP.

by **MaryamQ** 2012-01-15, 08:14

I find it ironic that TEDEN, by making these attacks, has stimulated what looks like a pro-ONE stance with us. The majority of our Congress and government still prefer neutrality, but in order to maintain that, we have to choose our alliances very carefully. We cannot choose some TEDEN countries we might like as allies because it would be a betrayal of ONE and pro-ONE friends who stood by us when we were under attack. It is then quite unfair of TEDEN to complain that we do not lean toward them.

by **M.Leviathin** 2012-01-16, 00:14

Death to ONE~
Death to swine~

by **Mudduck95** 2012-01-16, 03:05

MaryamQ wrote:I find it ironic that TEDEN, by making these attacks, has stimulated what looks like a pro-ONE stance with us. The majority of our Congress and government still prefer neutrality, but in order to maintain that, we have to choose our alliances very carefully. We cannot choose some TEDEN countries we might like as allies because it would be a betrayal of ONE and pro-ONE friends who stood by us when we were under attack. It is then quite unfair of TEDEN to complain that we do not lean toward them.

+1

by **Karakoran** 2012-02-10, 16:14

Perhaps we should do something to prove our neutrality? I know in the Cold War several nations (India, for instance) publicly announced the Unaligned Movement. Perhaps we could do that?

by **El1teBE** 2012-02-10, 16:28

Karakoran wrote:Perhaps we should do something to prove our neutrality? I know in the Cold War several nations (India, for instance) publicly announced the Unaligned Movement. Perhaps we could do that?

Actually, we started doing that by informing the others that we are neutral. And that should be the first step, and that step we're doing right now. The thing is that few ONE and pro-ONE countries claimed that they used to believe that we are pro-TEDEN, and we all know what was happening with TEDEN countries in the past: most of them believed that we are pro-ONE (because of our MPP with UK and because we helped UK in their war against Ireland). So, the fact is that the other countries actually don't have a clear image of eBelgian politics. I cannot blame anyone about that lack of diplomacy in the past, but I believe that thing could be changed!

by **Konrad Neumann** 2012-02-18, 17:39

The "Wardist" are pro-one. People like Mitte, TR, maybe NLSP etc are pro-one. The Shadowist like fhaemita, M.Leviathin, Shadow, myself are from Terra/ Eden.

Overall, it does not matter what you think you are. As long as you do not completely stay out of the way to both sides, then your claim of neutrality is not really valid.

by **Mudduck95** 2012-02-18, 19:19

That is a good point Konrad!

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2012-02-18, 21:08

Konrad Neumann wrote:The "Wardist" are pro-one. People like Mitte, TR, maybe NLSP etc are pro-one. The Shadowist like fhaemita, M.Leviathin, Shadow, myself are from Terra/ Eden.

Although ofcourse there are exceptions ofcourse Wardist are generally speaking proONE (you forgot Pieter in the list or proONE Wardist) and most Shadowist are TEDEN. This also makes it impossible for Belgium though to go either way seeing country has both ONE and TEDEN supporters.

by **Mudduck95** 2012-02-19, 17:34

That is why we are staying neutral!

by wim vercauteren 2012-02-26, 18:08

Neutral in what? Some people where denied citizenship?? How neutral is that?

by **tommot** 2012-02-26, 18:31

@ wim vercauteren: according to you ebelgium has to accept every request to citizenship, now that would be just plain stupid.
this is what i understand of what you just said.
Beside the neutrality of our nation has little to do with citizenship requests.

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2012-02-26, 20:40

wim vercauteren wrote:Neutral in what? Some people where denied citizenship?? How neutral is that?

Accepting everybody will just get us PTO'ed.
Do you want to loose the country to foreigners?

by Lisa Van Neste 2012-02-26, 20:44

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
wim vercauteren wrote:Neutral in what? Some people where denied citizenship?? How neutral is that?

Accepting everybody will just get us PTO'ed.
Do you want to loose the country to foreigners?

this! long live strict immigration!

by **Procuste** 2012-02-26, 21:59

wim vercauteren wrote:Neutral in what? Some people where denied citizenship?? How neutral is that?

Wim, denying or granting citizenship has nothing to do with neutrality.

Neutrality is at state's level and involves political decisions for the whole country, immigration is on a personal basis' level (but accepting anyone could in the end endanger the whole country). Smile

by Oleksandr 2012-02-27, 19:32

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
wim vercauteren wrote:Neutral in what? Some people where denied citizenship?? How neutral is that?

Accepting everybody will just get us PTO'ed.
Do you want to loose the country to foreigners?

most people here are foreigners lol

by **El1teBE** 2012-02-27, 19:38

Oleksandr wrote:
Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
wim vercauteren wrote:Neutral in what? Some people where denied citizenship?? How neutral is that?

Accepting everybody will just get us PTO'ed.
Do you want to loose the country to foreigners?

most people here are foreigners lol

Yes, we are. But you cannot say that eBe is already PTOed Razz

by **Jofroi** 2012-02-27, 20:33

We have a lot of foreigners, but most of them are willing to be integrated in the eBelgian community and working in the interest of eBelgium.

It's an eGame, what matters is eNationality, not RL nationality. Look at the Pakistan or North Korea for instance, there are much RL people there Wink

by **MaryamQ** 2012-02-27, 21:27

We are eBelgian at heart. I love you

by **El1teBE** 2012-02-27, 21:31

MaryamQ wrote:We are eBelgian at heart.

by Lisa Van Neste 2012-02-27, 21:32

MaryamQ wrote:We are eBelgian at heart.

/me drinks an eBelgian beer to that Razz

by **Jofroi** 2012-02-27, 21:43

MaryamQ wrote:We are eBelgian at heart.

Manong, goes out of this body

by **Procuste** 2012-02-27, 23:15

Oleksandr wrote:
Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
Accepting everybody will just get us PTO'ed.
Do you want to loose the country to foreigners?

most people here are foreigners lol

And Fhaemita is one of them. Wink

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2012-02-28, 00:09

Procuste wrote:
Oleksandr wrote:
Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
Accepting everybody will just get us PTO'ed.
Do you want to loose the country to foreigners?

most people here are foreigners lol

And Fhaemita is one of them.

You finally found out that I'm a PTO'er! cheers

by **Procuste** 2012-02-28, 08:06

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
You finally found out that I'm a PTO'er!

If being a foreigner means being a PTO'er, I'm also one Fhae. cat

by Oleksandr 2012-02-28, 14:52

eBelgium is PTOed by non-Belgians lol

by **Jofroi** 2012-02-28, 17:20

Fhae doesn't have the cs so he can't PTO us :p

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2012-02-28, 18:16

Jofroi wrote:Fhae doesn't have the cs so he can't PTO us :p

I could get citizenship if I want to, there is surely somebody who wants to approve me Razz

by **Cotarius** 2012-02-28, 19:27

No I want

Just PM me Wink

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