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Post by kabouter_wesley 2010-10-07, 09:15

In a matter of time there will be no grain left to buy on the eBelgian market. Food prices will rise drastically...

Something must happen CP and members of congress!
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2010-10-07, 09:36

Idd, only one foreign grain producer keeps the market really alive
Belgium needs a foreign high region grain company, the medium region here doesnt give enough grain to support our food companies

But I think our food companies deliver at a good price between 0.195-0.2/health point atm

Only grain we need, but its risky, if the admins continue their insane plan it would be a useless investment
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Post by Habraka Abrivianius 2010-10-07, 10:17

Glenn Wauters wrote:
Belgium needs a foreign high region grain company

Belgium has a High Grain State Company. I doubt it's functional though.
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Post by Innos28 2010-10-07, 10:37

How much grain do w consume in a day actually?
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Post by kabouter_wesley 2010-10-07, 13:41

3 grain = 1 health point

So if every play would consume 5 health a day that makes 15 grains.

I don't know how big the belgian market is. But my company alone produces for about 1000-1500 grains/ day
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2010-10-07, 17:26

Habraka Abrivianius wrote:
Glenn Wauters wrote:
Belgium needs a foreign high region grain company

Belgium has a High Grain State Company. I doubt it's functional though.

Then we will reactivate it
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Post by Habraka Abrivianius 2010-10-08, 14:18

Glenn Wauters wrote:
Habraka Abrivianius wrote:
Glenn Wauters wrote:
Belgium needs a foreign high region grain company

Belgium has a High Grain State Company. I doubt it's functional though.

Then we will reactivate it

Who is in charge of State Companies this month?

There is almost no Oil nor Grain on the market, and almost no RM below 0.05 BEF.
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Post by MaryamQ 2010-10-08, 20:05

Boklevski, with Velitia as uM, is MoF. I will contact them about it. I have switched the raws companies to that ministry.
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2010-10-08, 20:53

MaryamQ wrote:Boklevski, with Velitia as uM, is MoF. I will contact them about it. I have switched the raws companies to that ministry.

The sooner the better Smile
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Post by Boklevski 2010-10-08, 21:52

I have reactived the Grain company and am selling grain at 0.05 BEF. Will lower the price if and when the market reacts (to ensure a smooth transition to the new situation instead of creating a shock effect on our grain market.)

EDIT: Will continue to look at it as soon as eRep is back online (incl. creating better job offers to attract workers; although wages in Austria are pretty high Sad)
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2010-10-08, 22:07

Boklevski wrote:I have reactived the Grain company and am selling grain at 0.05 BEF. Will lower the price if and when the market reacts (to ensure a smooth transition to the new situation instead of creating a shock effect on our grain market.)

EDIT: Will continue to look at it as soon as eRep is back online (incl. creating better job offers to attract workers; although wages in Austria are pretty high Sad)
WHAT??? 0.05!!!!!
Your killing us dude!!!
Its a state company!!! Offer at 0.03, by asking 0.05 you will force every company owner to higher the prices
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Post by Boklevski 2010-10-10, 13:46

Lower Austria has been conquered by Italy. If we keep the company operational, we'd be paying the Income Taxes to Italy, an enemy of ONE. Do we want this?

@ Glenn Wauters: I'm only putting up at 0.05 to give other grain companies the time to adjust. I'm more in favour of a combined effort of governmental and private companies, that a government monopoly... as soon as the opportunity arises, I'll lower to 0.04 and maybe even 0.03 later on. eBe Grain doesn't produce enough to be the sole distributor of grain, so an offer of 0.03 BEF would be sold within seconds and only benefit the food company owner that is coincidentally online at that moment.
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Post by kabouter_wesley 2010-10-10, 14:35

It clear that food companies (including me) overreact as well.

grain prices increase with 1 or 2 cents/ piece, and food prices almost doubled...

if putted my Q2 food up the market for 1BEF
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2010-10-10, 15:21

Well, you say it yourself
Grain price doubles, food prices also

0.03 used to be it, now its 0.05 (almost the double)
Costs for a Q2 grain company to create one bread (only the grain)
0.03 = 0.36
0.04 = 0.48
0.05 = 0.6
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Post by kabouter_wesley 2010-10-10, 17:46

the last days foodcompanies made more profit than they did the previous week or so...
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Post by Jorne Reynders 2010-10-10, 18:04

Boklevski wrote:Lower Austria has been conquered by Italy. If we keep the company operational, we'd be paying the Income Taxes to Italy, an enemy of ONE. Do we want this?

@ Glenn Wauters: I'm only putting up at 0.05 to give other grain companies the time to adjust. I'm more in favour of a combined effort of governmental and private companies, that a government monopoly... as soon as the opportunity arises, I'll lower to 0.04 and maybe even 0.03 later on. eBe Grain doesn't produce enough to be the sole distributor of grain, so an offer of 0.03 BEF would be sold within seconds and only benefit the food company owner that is coincidentally online at that moment.
Do we still have ONE?
does it care One = FAIL
Why don't we try to help our economics
Belgium is in Crisis not ONE
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Post by temujin94 2010-10-10, 18:22

I think we can rule out ONE for now it has never been very successful and we should focuse primarily on getting a war for the population
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2010-10-10, 18:40

ONE was dead before it even started
Just sign an MPP and give us fights!
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Post by temujin94 2010-10-10, 18:42

Glenn Wauters wrote:ONE was dead before it even started
Just sign an MPP and give us fights!

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Post by Helviro 2010-10-10, 21:40

temujin94 wrote:
Glenn Wauters wrote:ONE was dead before it even started
Just sign an MPP and give us fights!

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Post by Sammy Tanghe 2010-10-10, 21:52

Helviro wrote:
temujin94 wrote:
Glenn Wauters wrote:ONE was dead before it even started
Just sign an MPP and give us fights!

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Post by Critically 2010-10-10, 21:54

Sammy Tanghe wrote:
Helviro wrote:
temujin94 wrote:
Glenn Wauters wrote:ONE was dead before it even started
Just sign an MPP and give us fights!

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Post by Habraka Abrivianius 2010-10-10, 23:12

Russia is losing battles and regions, Pakistan is gaining them.

Russia just wants to survive and thus avoid battles, Pakistan wants to grow and is looking for daily battles.

Just saying.
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Post by M.Leviathin 2010-10-11, 00:55

Habraka Abrivianius wrote:Russia is losing battles and regions, Pakistan is gaining them.

Russia just wants to survive and thus avoid battles, Pakistan wants to grow and is looking for daily battles.

Just saying.

:3
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Post by Fhaemita Malodorous 2010-10-11, 08:51

Critically wrote:
Sammy Tanghe wrote:
Helviro wrote:
temujin94 wrote:
Glenn Wauters wrote:ONE was dead before it even started
Just sign an MPP and give us fights!

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Post by Vulcain 2010-10-11, 18:25

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
Critically wrote:
Sammy Tanghe wrote:
Helviro wrote:
temujin94 wrote:
Glenn Wauters wrote:ONE was dead before it even started
Just sign an MPP and give us fights!

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Post by Theneka 2010-10-11, 18:32

Vulcain wrote:
Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
Critically wrote:
Sammy Tanghe wrote:
Helviro wrote:
temujin94 wrote:
Glenn Wauters wrote:ONE was dead before it even started
Just sign an MPP and give us fights!

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Post by Critically 2010-10-11, 18:39

OMG everyone wants WAR
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Post by Theneka 2010-10-11, 20:56

WAAAAARR :p
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Post by Fhaemita Malodorous 2010-10-11, 21:49

Theneka wrote:WAAAAARR :p

spammert Razz
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Post by Theneka 2010-10-11, 22:03

look who's talking :p
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Post by temujin94 2010-10-12, 00:30

Theneka wrote:
Vulcain wrote:
Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
Critically wrote:
Sammy Tanghe wrote:
Helviro wrote:
temujin94 wrote:
Glenn Wauters wrote:ONE was dead before it even started
Just sign an MPP and give us fights!

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Well i see ONE was popular

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Post by kabouter_wesley 2010-10-12, 11:01

What's left on the grain market:

4000 @ 0,06
5000 @ 0,09
949 @ 0,31

time for MORE action...
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Post by Boklevski 2010-10-12, 11:52

Lower Austria has become Italian. The current wage for an Italian skill 1 player is 9.31 ITL (0.158 G). This equals a stunning 8.33 BEF (!). To compare: the current wage for a skill 1 employee in eBelgium is 1.50 BEF.

Yes, I can keep eBe Grain running. However, this would be very short-term minded. It would cost the state a lot of money, we would need to sell below cost price, and it wouldn't really SOLVE the problem (only temporary fight the symptoms).

If the raws prices rise, foreign companies or local entrepreneurs will be more likely to buy a grain company and/or an export license to eBelgium. That would make for a harder time on short-term, but it would solve the problem on the long term, as prices of grain will drop and more grain will be available.

On a personal note: I hope we can hold on together. I know what you - as food company owner - are going through. I own a food company in eNL and the price of raws have also tripled there (and they have a HIGH region!). Please hold on, until entrepreneurs see the possibilities in the grain sector, and open more companies there.
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Post by Theneka 2010-10-12, 13:21

Lolz. We have a very small community, and thus are not interesting as buisness region. I say we raise the minimum wage, re-indexate it, sort of Smile
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Post by kabouter_wesley 2010-10-12, 13:25

raise of minimum wage means for many raise in costs

raise in costs means for many raise in price

etc.
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Post by Boklevski 2010-10-12, 13:43

Guys, let's face it: in terms of prices of food, there is an offer on the eBelgium market in the top 50 of best offers world wide.

We're on place 17 regarding grain prices, beating countries with a high region like France and USA.

We're cheap, actually... Razz It's really our wages that suck Wink

EDIT: Source: http://erepublik-market.cz.cc/
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Post by Theneka 2010-10-12, 14:36

U see. Evil capitalists want more than they shoudl get.
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2010-10-12, 14:45

Boklevski wrote:Guys, let's face it: in terms of prices of food, there is an offer on the eBelgium market in the top 50 of best offers world wide.

We're on place 17 regarding grain prices, beating countries with a high region like France and USA.

We're cheap, actually... Razz It's really our wages that suck Wink

EDIT: Source: http://erepublik-market.cz.cc/

It's because of our wages that we make it so high
If our wages are getting higher (like it is happening now) our food prices will get higher (like it is happening now)

EDIT: lol wtf, I'm 10th in the world selling cheap food, and this while my price raised quiet a bit
Im wondering what place i had when I was selling at 0.8BEF :p

EDIT: I'm selling the most cheapest Q2 food in the world!!!
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Post by Boklevski 2010-10-12, 18:06

^ What he said.

Come to Belgium for cheap food :')
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Post by Critically 2010-10-12, 18:41

I saw places (I am now on Chinese erea, and i work there for 3 day because I hadn't enough money to travel further.... Sad ) where food was very EXPANSIVE !!
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2010-10-12, 20:13

If the Belgian governement pays 1/2 of the export license, i will import grain into Belgium
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2010-10-12, 20:23

Grain Crisis Foodh

My company ftw Very Happy
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Post by Critically 2010-10-12, 22:23

My company already do import grain into Belgium !! Smile
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2010-10-17, 12:49

Grain prices are raising more, despite the fact that there is a bigger offer
If you pay 1/2 of my export license to Belgium I will be able to offer low priced food
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Post by Boklevski 2010-10-17, 16:22

Prices are at 0.06 BEF.

At the moment, that places us at spot 6 (!!) of world-wide offers, while we have no high region.

As soon as the situation changes structurally, we will look at the proposal again and have it voted in Congress.
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2010-10-17, 16:28

Boklevski wrote:Prices are at 0.06 BEF.

At the moment, that places us at spot 6 (!!) of world-wide offers, while we have no high region.

As soon as the situation changes structurally, we will look at the proposal again and have it voted in Congress.
When I last checked they were at 0.07
But now there idd is an offer of 1000+grain for 0.06
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Post by Critically 2010-10-17, 16:29

hahha it is myn offer ...
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2010-10-17, 16:59

Lol
How is your business going?
I cant get my hands on 10 workers for my Grain company, very hard cause when I check back one minute later someone already went over my offer or posted an offer only a stupid idiot would put on
Right now there are offers on the Dutch market wich are insane, nobody could make profit out of the thing they have to pay

Time to start for me to go on The Netherlands forum and promise to give some food every day (or 7/week) so they will be attracted by my proposal and work in my company :p

How is New Zeeland?
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Post by Critically 2010-10-17, 17:11

New Zealand is a little gold mine Smile
They are happy with 2.05 NZD (guru lvl9). So I can sell the grain on 0.06. But normally I the price is 0.07.

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