Re: [Public politics]congress members resigning

by Mikhail Alexander 2010-11-29, 21:52

ThomasRED wrote:
aVegan wrote:For what party did Watrogasac Nesa run?

Resigning a day after the elections isn't really done...

I have contacted the Serbian MoFA and i have talked with him about this issue, as Watrogasac Nesa and Tijana11 are serbian soldiers... In fact, they are members of paramilitary group, but they will be contacted by their officials to give explanations... More news in the next days...

Some how, I'm amazed that the Serbians are trying to help us.

by **Glenn Wauters** 2010-11-29, 22:51

Well, we have had an MPP with them, wich we payed all by ourselves so it's kinda the least they could do for us

by **ThomasRED** 2010-11-29, 23:01

Serbia will always be friend of Belgium, thanks to Milan Jovanovic...

by Mikhail Alexander 2010-11-30, 07:11

ThomasRED wrote:Serbia will always be friend of Belgium, thanks to Milan Jovanovic...

I suppose thats good.

by **MaryamQ** 2010-11-30, 18:18

We have two more Congress members who have resigned and left the country. To put a little perspective on this, that is a total of 13 votes thrown away on people who did not care to stay and serve, out of a total 119. Next in line to be elected would have been Jorne Reynders, who I think we all know would have been glad to do his job faithfully and well. I am not sure we have a lot of recourse to deal with this, but suggest at the very least there ought to be some public noise made about it in the media.

by **NLSP** 2010-11-30, 18:37

MaryamQ wrote:We have two more Congress members who have resigned and left the country. To put a little perspective on this, that is a total of 13 votes thrown away on people who did not care to stay and serve, out of a total 119. Next in line to be elected would have been Jorne Reynders, who I think we all know would have been glad to do his job faithfully and well. I am not sure we have a lot of recourse to deal with this, but suggest at the very least there ought to be some public noise made about it in the media.

I totally agree
my next article will be about this, but I am still seeking time to write it

by Jorne Reynders 2010-11-30, 18:43

MaryamQ wrote:We have two more Congress members who have resigned and left the country. To put a little perspective on this, that is a total of 13 votes thrown away on people who did not care to stay and serve, out of a total 119. Next in line to be elected would have been Jorne Reynders, who I think we all know would have been glad to do his job faithfully and well. I am not sure we have a lot of recourse to deal with this, but suggest at the very least there ought to be some public noise made about it in the media.

i i will reach congress for first time maybe What a Face

by Mikhail Alexander 2010-12-01, 07:32

Jorne Reynders wrote:
MaryamQ wrote:We have two more Congress members who have resigned and left the country. To put a little perspective on this, that is a total of 13 votes thrown away on people who did not care to stay and serve, out of a total 119. Next in line to be elected would have been Jorne Reynders, who I think we all know would have been glad to do his job faithfully and well. I am not sure we have a lot of recourse to deal with this, but suggest at the very least there ought to be some public noise made about it in the media.
i i will reach congress for first time maybe

Me too, I plan to run on the 25th of this month Smile

by **Glenn Wauters** 2010-12-01, 11:18

I received this message from Gurafity, I am not statisfied that one of my official candidates simply quitted because he thinks the distant to congres and party leaders is too far away?

Hello Glenn,

I announce my departure from the country, saw no malicious intent, just that to stay put and do nothing irritates him. I love fight and Belgium isn't the better place for it.

I have already given the Gold Medal of the national bank, so I do not run away like a thief. Do not take me for both Serb who fled ^^

It happens that I am too distant from the Congress, party officials and players in the country, certainly the fact that everything is in English.

I am sorry to leave like that, but know that when Belgium will be in trouble, I will do my best to help:)

Sincerely, a true Belgian.

by Jorne Reynders 2010-12-01, 15:34

Jorne Reynders wrote:
MaryamQ wrote:We have two more Congress members who have resigned and left the country. To put a little perspective on this, that is a total of 13 votes thrown away on people who did not care to stay and serve, out of a total 119. Next in line to be elected would have been Jorne Reynders, who I think we all know would have been glad to do his job faithfully and well. I am not sure we have a lot of recourse to deal with this, but suggest at the very least there ought to be some public noise made about it in the media.
i i will reach congress for first time maybe

nvm i go to vacation in france

by Mikhail Alexander 2010-12-01, 21:52

Glenn Wauters wrote:I received this message from Gurafity, I am not statisfied that one of my official candidates simply quitted because he thinks the distant to congres and party leaders is too far away?

Hello Glenn,

I announce my departure from the country, saw no malicious intent, just that to stay put and do nothing irritates him. I love fight and Belgium isn't the better place for it.

I have already given the Gold Medal of the national bank, so I do not run away like a thief. Do not take me for both Serb who fled ^^

It happens that I am too distant from the Congress, party officials and players in the country, certainly the fact that everything is in English.

I am sorry to leave like that, but know that when Belgium will be in trouble, I will do my best to help:)

Sincerely, a true Belgian.

At least he sent you a message and sent the gold to the bank. I have nothing against him except for the people in Australia that's left and didn't contact anyone.

by **tiltas** 2010-12-02, 16:29

aVegan wrote:Never said it was an either-or situation.
In the end it comes to what is important. Do we judge a person (or group like last month) because he donates gold or because he is active.

If we judge him on his donations we should also judge about his activity.

Still think that everyone should apologize to the BCP for last months witch hunt. All BCP members where active what couldn't be said by most of the other parties. Specially the party that shouted the loudest, being the BfB.
ThomasRed are you going to apologize or are you prepared to accuse your own party?

Lets not forget that the BCP congress gold was used for eBelgium and didn't end in anyones pocket. As a bonus you got ACTIVE congress members. ALL BCP members are and have been active on the forum.

+1

by **tiltas** 2010-12-02, 16:40

i took the time to read the whole thread and I must say that I'm not surprised to see the lack of an apology coming from TR.
When the position is biased and used for pure propaganda, then we don't have to expect nothing else.

as for the serbian guys... looks like the idea of getting free food and free wheapon for "selling" your vote on congress elections is too tempting for many of our young players so they voted for these guys. And as we would recquire to have 5 official parties they don't seem to have a very hard job, unfortunatelly Sad

by **Sammy Tanghe** 2010-12-02, 17:09

having 5 parties is not required. I've seen countries working with 3 or 4 parties. It's just damn hard to remove a party once it is started ...

by **tiltas** 2010-12-02, 18:01

Sammy Tanghe wrote:having 5 parties is not required. I've seen countries working with 3 or 4 parties. It's just damn hard to remove a party once it is started ...

but isn't it true that a top 5 parties get the right to candidate their members and run on the elections?

by **Glenn Wauters** 2010-12-02, 19:40

tiltas wrote:
Sammy Tanghe wrote:having 5 parties is not required. I've seen countries working with 3 or 4 parties. It's just damn hard to remove a party once it is started ...

but isn't it true that a top 5 parties get the right to candidate their members and run on the elections?

Yes, but only if there are too many candidates, you can put these serbians all the way down the list, but you can still vote on them

by **tiltas** 2010-12-03, 07:38

Glenn Wauters wrote:
tiltas wrote:
Sammy Tanghe wrote:having 5 parties is not required. I've seen countries working with 3 or 4 parties. It's just damn hard to remove a party once it is started ...

but isn't it true that a top 5 parties get the right to candidate their members and run on the elections?

Yes, but only if there are too many candidates, you can put these serbians all the way down the list, but you can still vote on them

isn't it that a PP can remove people who are excess? like if there are 3 candidates a PP can remove the 4h, 5th etc. on the list?

by **MaryamQ** 2010-12-03, 08:26

Not exactly. A PP could remove excess candidates if you had enough to fill all the seats in a given region, but practically, that never happens here; thus, there are always some candidates running who are not endorsed by the parties they are running under. This happens even in the larger parties that have more candidates. In the small parties, even more so, anyone who is a party member can run regardless of the feelings of the PP or the party at large. In recent months, both RB and BfB have had party members who ran and won even without the support of party leadership. This is one reason PTO is such a danger in a small community like ours.

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