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Post by Tengo2 2011-05-04, 19:52

Hello my compatriots,
I'm a new player but i've already seen that the salaries in France are higher than ours.
Some citizens are attracted by the money so they're going to work over there... Then the money is not for our government to develop our little but beautiful country but to the French government and that's very annoying.
Do you think we can do something for a problem like that?

Thank you very much for your time,

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Post by jamster737 2011-05-04, 19:54

u am not sure jofroi will know but we also have to take into account the monetary market and all of that -__-
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Post by Tengo2 2011-05-04, 20:12

And what's the "behavior" of our monetary market ? I'm new player so i've to learn everything Smile
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Post by jamster737 2011-05-04, 20:28

i am not sure i am not good at the monatary market Razz it is very unstable at the moment with all the admin changes however and the balue of gold has skyrocketed
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Post by Ward De Bever 2011-05-04, 20:53

The value of gold is the same for all countries. The BEF is not particularly weak or strong, it's worth about the value of the FRF, between 250-285 local currency. So the salaries should be comparable. Also, prices on the French marketplace are comparable, to the purchasing power per BEF seems only a few percent higher than per FRF.

Yet if we see that the highest level 5 job offer is 19.50 BEF in Belgium and 35 FRF in France, there is indeed a problem for Belgium.

Let's try to think of explanations and a remedy :-)


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Post by Jofroi 2011-05-04, 21:11

Well, in eBelgium the market is (despite what all the company owner states while they complain all the time) a pretty good market for companies and it is definitely not the best country to have good wages.

However, you also have to consider the quality of life.

For example, in eBelgium, a high skill (11) will earn 38.5 BEF = 0.138 gold, while in France he'll earn 55.35 FRF = 0.2214 gold.

But the cost of life in eBelgium is also lower.

Let's compare Q1 food of both countries.

In eBelgium, a Q1 food cost 0.0014 gold, while in France, it cost 0.0015 gold
(and for weapon, the value is almost the same in both countries).

So, a French citizen can buy more things with the same salary and buy more gold.

It's better to live in France.

There are several reasons among that, but the main is that France owns more natural ressources than eBelgium, so they can produce more.

Another reason is that they've a more competitive environment, so the company owners make less profits.

A last remark can be done. In eBelgium, the price of the raw is almost the same than in eFrance, while we have lower wages. It means that the company owner makes a lot more profits either while selling raw and either while selling food.

You could object that France have more raw booster, but if you look, it's only true for the raw, not for the food.

So, our company manager are making too much profits, that's all. Or our workers aren't working with enough wellness, or lack of boosters.

Some other considerations could also be done about the Monetary Market.
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Post by NLSP 2011-05-04, 21:30

so if Shadow is complaining that he can't be more competitive, he just wants to much profit?
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Post by Cotarius 2011-05-04, 21:39

I think that is an other topic!
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Post by Gibberish45 2011-05-04, 21:44

Jofroi wrote:

too much profits,


No such thing!
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Post by Jofroi 2011-05-04, 21:58

Well, I can tell u, I've some employees.

Most of them are underpaid, but I've one that is skill 11 and that I pay 35 BEF (above market offers). (but with VAT, not much difference.

He produces 102 iron/day => production cost is around 0.34 BEF/ raw.

Which is strange because that would mean that technically the frenchies would hire at a loss?

I think that I know where is the gap. It's in high quality companies that we almost don't have in eBelgium Wink. The Q1 foods must be full of company manager, allowing them to lower the price a lot. I let you find why, don't have the time to explain now Wink.
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Post by Tengo2 2011-05-05, 09:29

Thank you very much for your answers.
I didn't expect that this game was so complicated!
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Post by Jofroi 2011-05-05, 09:38

Actually the game is rather simple Wink. And it used to be far more complex in V1 (with different skills and so on).

It's just that if you begin with economy, even the most simple stuff can become very complex if u consider the whole model^^.
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Post by Tengo2 2011-05-05, 10:28

It's exactly that!
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Post by Glenn Wauters 2011-05-05, 11:17

Also keep in mind that the Belgian food is the cheapest in the world!!!!!!

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Post by Bert_en_Ernie 2011-05-05, 11:46

Cool I'm the cheapest of the entire eworld Wink
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Post by Jofroi 2011-05-05, 12:10

Your screenshot is outdated ^^. I think that for buying stuff and all, eRepublik trade isn't very reliable (for example atm the food price in gold for Q1 gives 0.00152 gold/ unit).
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Post by Elynea 2011-05-05, 14:02

Tengo2 wrote:Thank you very much for your answers.
I didn't expect that this game was so complicated!

Hi tengo2 here too, you are the first one in the Mu for new players. It's a pleasure to see you here.
It all depends on country's ressources.
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Post by darkinou 2011-05-05, 17:25

Jofroi wrote:Which is strange because that would mean that technically the frenchies would hire at a loss?

Yes, they do. It's because of the stone companies whose prices are very high. So they can suggest higher salaries and the other sectors try to follow but waste money doing this...
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Post by jamster737 2011-05-05, 17:30

Glenn Wauters wrote:Also keep in mind that the Belgian food is the cheapest in the world!!!!!!

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yes my company is there Very Happy
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Post by Ward De Bever 2011-05-06, 03:35

darkinou wrote: the stone companies (...) can suggest higher salaries and the other sectors try to follow (...)

Since stone will disappear with the new raws, these extravagant salaries will go away too (if the new raws ever get implemented).


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