Jamster as CP - Opinions.

by prophexy 2011-10-15, 23:07

Okay, I have been hearing some talk about issues with Jamster's presidency. Besides for not following the orders of a Supreme Court ruling on who he can't have in HIS OWN GOVERNMENT (Which he should be able to decide that, regardless, but besides the point...), what is the issues?

I have been watching Jamster run the government since the first day he was in office, and I have seen him do nothing but try his hardest. If you all think it's so easy, why don't you run for president? If you don't want to do this, than why don't you shut it and quit with the mud slinging.

Signing out,
Irritated prophexy

by **RayCaptain** 2011-10-15, 23:24

prophexy wrote:Okay, I have been hearing some talk about issues with Jamster's presidency. Besides for not following the orders of a Supreme Court ruling on who he can't have in HIS OWN GOVERNMENT (Which he should be able to decide that, regardless, but besides the point...), what is the issues?

I have been watching Jamster run the government since the first day he was in office, and I have seen him do nothing but try his hardest. If you all think it's so easy, why don't you run for president? If you don't want to do this, than why don't you shut it and quit with the mud slinging.

Signing out,
Irritated prophexy

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by prophexy 2011-10-15, 23:27

RayCaptain wrote:
prophexy wrote:Okay, I have been hearing some talk about issues with Jamster's presidency. Besides for not following the orders of a Supreme Court ruling on who he can't have in HIS OWN GOVERNMENT (Which he should be able to decide that, regardless, but besides the point...), what is the issues?

I have been watching Jamster run the government since the first day he was in office, and I have seen him do nothing but try his hardest. If you all think it's so easy, why don't you run for president? If you don't want to do this, than why don't you shut it and quit with the mud slinging.

Signing out,
Irritated prophexy

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by **djony** 2011-10-16, 08:28

I agree with that... and the decisions he had to take were not so simple... Whatever the decision he would have taken, there would always have been people complaining about it...

But as i said in a former post, SC has no sense if we can't handle with their decision... maybe we should rethink its role...

by **shadowukcs** 2011-10-16, 10:03

Best president .... ever!!

don't let yourself get unbalanced by butthurt comments from a 2 or 3 individuals

by **NLSP** 2011-10-16, 15:30

prophexy wrote:I have been watching Jamster run the government since the first day he was in office, and I have seen him do nothing but try his hardest. If you all think it's so easy, why don't you run for president? If you don't want to do this, than why don't you shut it and quit with the mud slinging.

Dear prophexy,
I have been in the position already that I was CP and I do know the difficulties there are. I never would claim it is easy if you want to really do a good job. The only problem is that if you have opposition they will look and use the errors you make. Then your best is sometimes just not good enough...
He knew what he was signing up for and I think he is strong enough to deal with critics. I especially say here critics and not mud-slinging cause a lot of the comments he got are not unjustified.
He was part of the prosecuting team against shadow and agreed with the asked punishment grade, the SC gave shad a lighter punishment then asked and still he doesn't follow it?
I do know that some people wants everyone to be quiet about that, but isn't that the same thing that jamster his friends are claiming me? They say that I want to silence everyone, but they are the one who keep asking to 'shut up and get over it' ...

Main thing: the CP should upheld the highest standards and even when he tries but not fully succeed in that, critics should be allowed.

by prophexy 2011-10-16, 15:56

NLSP wrote:
prophexy wrote:I have been watching Jamster run the government since the first day he was in office, and I have seen him do nothing but try his hardest. If you all think it's so easy, why don't you run for president? If you don't want to do this, than why don't you shut it and quit with the mud slinging.
Dear prophexy,
I have been in the position already that I was CP and I do know the difficulties there are. I never would claim it is easy if you want to really do a good job. The only problem is that if you have opposition they will look and use the errors you make. Then your best is sometimes just not good enough...
He knew what he was signing up for and I think he is strong enough to deal with critics. I especially say here critics and not mud-slinging cause a lot of the comments he got are not unjustified.
He was part of the prosecuting team against shadow and agreed with the asked punishment grade, the SC gave shad a lighter punishment then asked and still he doesn't follow it?
I do know that some people wants everyone to be quiet about that, but isn't that the same thing that jamster his friends are claiming me? They say that I want to silence everyone, but they are the one who keep asking to 'shut up and get over it' ...

Main thing: the CP should upheld the highest standards and even when he tries but not fully succeed in that, critics should be allowed.

NLSP,
I agree that some of the criticism is founded, just as some criticism against myself is founded, and yourself, and shadowukcs, etc etc...Basically everyone. However, there is a difference between criticism and mud-slinging.

My thing is everyone makes mistakes. You made mistakes in your presidency, I'm sure. Critically made mistakes, fhaemita, like I said before, EVERYONE makes mistakes and everyone has valid criticism towards them at some points in time.

If it was another president from an 'opposing party' such as ATO or ULA, I don't think the same things would be being said of that person that are currently being said of Jamster. The same people that are pushing for his resignation or impeachment in this case would be saying something a long the lines of "Oh well he IS CP, therefore he has the right to choose his own government regardless blah blah blah."

My main issue is that if you're going to be judgmental of the actions of your CP, look in the mirror first and ask yourself if you'd be doing this is someone such as Jofroi (Jofroi, you know I love you Very Happy

) or Ward somehow were elected. These two people are just examples.

Sorry if this seems like rambling, I'm horribly sick with the flu and cannot thinks straight.

by prophexy 2011-10-16, 16:01

djony wrote:I agree with that... and the decisions he had to take were not so simple... Whatever the decision he would have taken, there would always have been people complaining about it...

But as i said in a former post, SC has no sense if we can't handle with their decision... maybe we should rethink its role...

Another thing I was meaning to mention in my rambling, but totally spaced and forgot is this ^^.

by **shadowukcs** 2011-10-16, 16:04

Ward as CP, the idea alone makes me shiver more than Di Rupo as prime minister

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2011-10-16, 16:04

prophexy wrote:
My main issue is that if you're going to be judgmental of the actions of your CP, look in the mirror first and ask yourself if you'd be doing this is someone such as Jofroi (Jofroi, you know I love you ) or Ward somehow were elected. These two people are just examples.

+1

prophexy wrote:
Sorry if this seems like rambling, I'm horribly sick with the flu and cannot thinks straight.

That would be the day, you thinking straight :p

by **Konrad Neumann** 2011-10-16, 16:08

NLSP wrote:
prophexy wrote:I have been watching Jamster run the government since the first day he was in office, and I have seen him do nothing but try his hardest. If you all think it's so easy, why don't you run for president? If you don't want to do this, than why don't you shut it and quit with the mud slinging.
Dear prophexy,
I have been in the position already that I was CP and I do know the difficulties there are. I never would claim it is easy if you want to really do a good job. The only problem is that if you have opposition they will look and use the errors you make. Then your best is sometimes just not good enough...
He knew what he was signing up for and I think he is strong enough to deal with critics. I especially say here critics and not mud-slinging cause a lot of the comments he got are not unjustified.
He was part of the prosecuting team against shadow and agreed with the asked punishment grade, the SC gave shad a lighter punishment then asked and still he doesn't follow it?
I do know that some people wants everyone to be quiet about that, but isn't that the same thing that jamster his friends are claiming me? They say that I want to silence everyone, but they are the one who keep asking to 'shut up and get over it' ...

Main thing: the CP should upheld the highest standards and even when he tries but not fully succeed in that, critics should be allowed.

All I see is you being butt hurt that people are ignoring your attempts to silence people. This is why you keep reporting me and trying to silence me and shadow with your admin friends joining the witch hunts. You talk about standards but what about yourself? You have absolutely no standards with your mod and admin skills. You are one of the most polarizing person in eBE. Why is it that in the [deleted], people are not complaining about Jofroi etc but only you? Why is everyone that is a rival to you really hate you? We might not agree with Jofroi or his party, but there is no hatred or the same level of tension that you enjoy.

You do galvanize people. You want free speech and you will have it. Most likely you will complain and report it since you do not like to read what I have to say. You whine a lot and is trying to silence people. What you do is a witch hunt. If you find it insulting and stop trying to silence your rival with BS bans and warning. Stop whining that shadow did not get punishment for NOT BREAKING ANY BLOODY LAWS! Your standards in understanding law and constitution needs a lot of work. You might be a good physicist but you are no political scientist nor a lawyer. Your lack of understanding and trying to apply physics into the social realm is just making you a tyrant and a focal point of tension. While Shadow is not friends with Jofroi etc, he does not hate him. Many people sadly do hate you and thinks you are a jerk and a power monger. If you cannot handle it and you want to continue to dismiss it, continue to report and silence people etc that is your right.

You want free speech and you have it. I think you have the right to know what I and others feel. This is nothing more than critiques...

by **jamster737** 2011-10-16, 16:25

I have to Say NLSP you cant compare our 2 months as CP. You never had to deal with a "civil war" it was nice and peacefull back when you where CP.

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2011-10-16, 16:26

Konrad Neumann wrote: You have absolutely no standards with your mod and admin skills. You are one of the most polarizing person in eNL.

Wait whut? eNL?
Did i miss something umportant?

:p

by **NLSP** 2011-10-16, 16:30

jamster737 wrote:I have to Say NLSP you cant compare our 2 months as CP. You never had to deal with a "civil war" it was nice and peacefull back when you where CP.

ofcourse the circumstances are different, however I also had to deal with some critics and was claimed to not follow the law, etc. ...

by **jamster737** 2011-10-16, 16:37

NLSP wrote:
jamster737 wrote:I have to Say NLSP you cant compare our 2 months as CP. You never had to deal with a "civil war" it was nice and peacefull back when you where CP.
ofcourse the circumstances are different, however I also had to deal with some critics and was claimed to not follow the law, etc. ...

the SC was not there when you where in power was it not ? also you never had people telling you that you cant have people in you gov

by **shadowukcs** 2011-10-16, 16:37

I love jofroi. It's just such a damn shame that he's a waloon. Otherwise I'd probably stalk him.

by **Procuste** 2011-10-16, 16:49

NLSP, Jamster, whenever you are in a powerful position, people complain. That's what you get when you get responsabilities. Wink

shadowukcs wrote:I love jofroi. It's just such a damn shame that he's a waloon. Otherwise I'd probably stalk him.

He's not. Stalk him. Twisted Evil

by **Ward De Bever** 2011-10-16, 17:19

Nobody here asked Jamster to step down. Jamster proposed it himself. I only made the constatation that Jamster acts like a dictator when he sets aside verdicts and laws. Nothing more. We can talk about it as much as we want, but Jamster was recommended by the SC to not include Shadowukcs in his government. The fact that he did shows his despisal for our institutions.

Now we can ignore the CP and go on with trying to run the country.

by prophexy 2011-10-16, 17:44

Ward De Bever wrote:Nobody here asked Jamster to step down. Jamster proposed it himself. I only made the constatation that Jamster acts like a dictator when he sets aside verdicts and laws. Nothing more. We can talk about it as much as we want, but Jamster was recommended by the SC to not include Shadowukcs in his government. The fact that he did shows his despisal for our institutions.

Now we can ignore the CP and go on with trying to run the country.

Correct, nobody asked Jamster to step down. It was just suggested that an impeachment proceeding be started against him....my mistake.

by **Jofroi** 2011-10-16, 17:45

shadowukcs wrote:I love jofroi. It's just such a damn shame that he's a waloon. Otherwise I'd probably stalk him.

Yeah it's too sad that Mechelen is that far... Now I've to stalk Kravenn instead of you.

by **shadowukcs** 2011-10-16, 18:03

Jofroi wrote:
shadowukcs wrote:I love jofroi. It's just such a damn shame that he's a waloon. Otherwise I'd probably stalk him.

Yeah it's too sad that Mechelen is that far... Now I've to stalk Kravenn instead of you.

I would come to walonia but everyone is unemployed there and everyone stinks. I'd have to fight off the hoardes of unemployed who see a flemmish guy and think they can ask for his money.

@ innos: in case you aren't capable to comprehend this text: it's clearly a sarcastic text. I recognize that not all waloons are stinking unemployed people. And it's only their politicians that see a flemmish guy and think "How much money could I get from him?"

by **Procuste** 2011-10-16, 18:19

shadowukcs wrote:
I would come to walonia but everyone is unemployed there and everyone stinks. I'd have to fight off the hoardes of unemployed who see a flemmish guy and think they can ask for his money.

The advantage with Belgium is that foreigners don't need at all to create stereotypes over Belgian people : they already do the job for you. Razz

I've never heard about the stinking stuff though. ^^

by **shadowukcs** 2011-10-16, 18:37

Procuste wrote:
shadowukcs wrote:
I would come to walonia but everyone is unemployed there and everyone stinks. I'd have to fight off the hoardes of unemployed who see a flemmish guy and think they can ask for his money.

The advantage with Belgium is that foreigners don't need at all to create stereotypes over Belgian people : they already do the job for you.

I've never heard about the stinking stuff though. ^^

well since Waloons are obviously pig disgusting (They're wannabe-frenchmen. I mean, who on earth would want to try and copy the French... I MEAN THE FRENCH OF ALL COUNTRIES OUT THERE?!?!?!?) they have to stink. It's logic101

@innos: yes, this post is just like my previous one a sarcastic, light post. I don't really mean that all waloons are pig discussing. Just ones that are in the P.S.

by **ThomasRED** 2011-10-16, 18:42

Should i move this to random ?

by **jamster737** 2011-10-16, 18:45

ThomasRED wrote:Should i move this to random ?

it was a serious topic to start with so i say no just lock and they can carry on in random ^^

by prophexy 2011-10-16, 18:47

Moved to Random - Stop with the Walloon vs Flemish rubbish please.

by **Procuste** 2011-10-16, 18:56

Sir, yes sir. Wink

by prophexy 2011-10-16, 19:16

Procuste wrote:
shadowukcs wrote:
I would come to walonia but everyone is unemployed there and everyone stinks. I'd have to fight off the hoardes of unemployed who see a flemmish guy and think they can ask for his money.

The advantage with Belgium is that foreigners don't need at all to create stereotypes over Belgian people : they already do the job for you.

This is very true, however.. lol

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