Re: Review of Admins

by **jamster737** 2011-11-09, 20:11

Guys can we not get of topic Smile

by **Cotarius** 2011-11-09, 20:15

My biggest question why isnt it done by the former CP???'It seems to be a big issue but I think it's more a kind of Vendetta what is going on.

by **jamster737** 2011-11-09, 20:17

Cotarius wrote:My biggest question why isnt it done by the former CP???'It seems to be a big issue but I think it's more a kind of Vendetta what is going on.

if it was a vendetta i would be screaming of with there head. I am not i simply would like a review Smile

by **Innos28** 2011-11-09, 20:20

Jamster if you have a problem with an admin you can always talk to another admin about your concern.

We can always discuss these matters in the admin area.

by **Cotarius** 2011-11-09, 20:21

Why now this review and not last month?

by **jamster737** 2011-11-09, 20:21

Innos28 wrote:Jamster if you have a problem with an admin you can always talk to another admin about your concern.

We can always discuss these matters in the admin area.

I would like a review to see if it can be changed to make it more effective. I find it sad how the admin team has become a club where nobody refuses to go

by **M.Leviathin** 2011-11-09, 20:47

What do the admins do that the currently elected moderators cannot?

by **Cotarius** 2011-11-09, 20:51

jamster737 wrote:
Cotarius wrote:My biggest question why isnt it done by the former CP???'It seems to be a big issue but I think it's more a kind of Vendetta what is going on.
if it was a vendetta i would be screaming of with there head. I am not i simply would like a review

Sorry Jamster if I offend you because I don't mean you alone but "the fight" what is already longer going on and to me, and I know more people, get enough of all the fighting from both "camps".
So sorry that it looks now personal that wasn't it.

by **jamster737** 2011-11-09, 20:58

Cotarius wrote:
jamster737 wrote:
Cotarius wrote:My biggest question why isnt it done by the former CP???'It seems to be a big issue but I think it's more a kind of Vendetta what is going on.
if it was a vendetta i would be screaming of with there head. I am not i simply would like a review

Sorry Jamster if I offend you because I don't mean you alone but "the fight" what is already longer going on and to me, and I know more people, get enough of all the fighting from both "camps".
So sorry that it looks now personal that wasn't it.

no problem ^^ i just want to look into if other players could do the job better. I think it is time to look for a change imo the country has changed

by **Innos28** 2011-11-09, 21:46

You actually have a good point Jamster.

We usually choose new admins from our moderator group. As a way of trial.

But so far we haven't received many applications to become a mod.
(aside from the mods added by congress, who are doing great btw)

by **shadowukcs** 2011-11-10, 00:18

Cotarius wrote:
Monsieur Guillotine wrote:
M.Leviathin wrote:Why do we need admins if all they do is give masks and create forums? Both those things take seconds (3 minutes at most) to do. Why not just hand over those functions to the current moderators as well?

because NLSP and TR are power-hungry... duh

Who is saying this?????
Please be carfull with youre words MG and take a mirror.

I'm saying this too.

why? coz they are. Especially NLSP

by Mikhail Alexander 2011-11-10, 06:42

shadowukcs wrote:
Cotarius wrote:
Monsieur Guillotine wrote:
M.Leviathin wrote:Why do we need admins if all they do is give masks and create forums? Both those things take seconds (3 minutes at most) to do. Why not just hand over those functions to the current moderators as well?

because NLSP and TR are power-hungry... duh

Who is saying this?????
Please be carfull with youre words MG and take a mirror.

I'm saying this too.

why? coz they are. Especially NLSP

I also agree with this, and I look beautiful in the mirror Very Happy

by **Jofroi** 2011-11-10, 07:07

M.Leviathin wrote:What do the admins do that the currently elected moderators cannot?

All the structural forum related stuff. + Masks.

by **jamster737** 2011-11-15, 22:41

Anyway as it has been brushed aside Rolling Eyes

I would like congress to actualy look into this

by **RamessesTheGreat** 2011-11-16, 06:22

I don't see why it's so difficult to do the review.

by **RamessesTheGreat** 2011-11-16, 06:30

Oh and before someone decides to reply to my post, I really don't care what your explanation is. I don't have time to hear some half intelligent response, I want action! Very Happy

by Monsieur Guillotine 2011-11-16, 06:46

RamessesTheGreat wrote:Oh and before someone decides to reply to my post, I really don't care what your explanation is. I don't have time to hear some half intelligent response, I want action!

Hail the Pharaoh!

by **M.Leviathin** 2011-11-16, 08:47

RamessesTheGreat wrote:I don't see why it's so difficult to do the review.

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2011-11-16, 09:02

M.Leviathin wrote:
RamessesTheGreat wrote:I don't see why it's so difficult to do the review.

by **shadowukcs** 2011-11-16, 09:27

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
M.Leviathin wrote:
RamessesTheGreat wrote:I don't see why it's so difficult to do the review.

by **Nohjis** 2011-11-16, 10:05

Nobody said you couldn't have a review, most replies that you got was that others don't agree that it's needed.

You're the ones simply not doing one while asking for it... Does someone that doesn't feel like it have to do it in your place as well ? How do you propose to review the admins ?

Stop complaining, find the solution to do it and act.

by **aVegan** 2011-11-16, 10:08

shadowukcs wrote:
Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
M.Leviathin wrote:
RamessesTheGreat wrote:I don't see why it's so difficult to do the review.

by **NLSP** 2011-11-16, 15:25

well isn't this topic some kind of a review?

and if you want an official congress thing, ask your local congressmember to do so Razz

by **jamster737** 2011-11-16, 16:44

Nohjis wrote:Nobody said you couldn't have a review, most replies that you got was that others don't agree that it's needed.

You're the ones simply not doing one while asking for it... Does someone that doesn't feel like it have to do it in your place as well ? How do you propose to review the admins ?

Stop complaining, find the solution to do it and act.

i am not a congress member i would ask a group of congress members all with different opinions to sit down and discuss it. I would like to play a part if they would allow it.
I need a congress member to start the review tho

by **Nohjis** 2011-11-16, 16:46

You don't have a congressmember in your admin reviewing ranks ? Suspect

by **jamster737** 2011-11-16, 16:50

Nohjis wrote:You don't have a congressmember in your admin reviewing ranks ?

no i just need a congressmember to start the bal rolling doesnt matter who Razz

by **Nohjis** 2011-11-16, 17:00

jamster737 wrote:
Nohjis wrote:You don't have a congressmember in your admin reviewing ranks ?
no i just need a congressmember to start the bal rolling doesnt matter who

Well if the congressmembers that believe we should review admins aren't willing to start the ball rolling, I can open a thread in the section you want it to be opened as a friendly gesture for a fellow party member. But may I suggest first trying to contact those people ?

by **RamessesTheGreat** 2011-11-17, 03:28

Okay, if I contact a member of congress and propose this, you will start a thread proposing this?

And this is what I was talking about a half intelligent response. You shouldn't have to tell him to ask his congressman, or even suggest that he does so. You should be competent enough to say, "Sure, I'll start a thread proposing this offer and we'll see where it goes". Instead we get this.......wow, that's all I can say to this....wow.

by **Nohjis** 2011-11-17, 14:00

Sorry for my half-witted comment. I promise I'll try to refrain myself in the future when a congress member, a moderator and a former country president quote your reaction instead of taking action.

Yes, if you really wish me to start a thread in the congress section for something I personally disagree with, I will, just like I brought a proposal to vote 5 minutes after posting it in the debate thread when asked to do so by a non-congress member who started a congress debate (because that's also a possibility) even if I disagreed with the timing.

Your best chance of success at passing an Admin review however is that a congress-member who supports this starts up a congress debate, takes the time to write out a law-proposal (with your help for instance) and brings it to vote after 24 hours of debate.

by **shadowukcs** 2011-11-17, 14:38

why can't the admins make the moderation logs publicly accessible?

by **jamster737** 2011-11-17, 14:39

shadowukcs wrote:why can't the admins make the moderation logs publicly accessible?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Laughing

like they would do that

by **RamessesTheGreat** 2011-11-18, 00:13

Nohjis wrote:Sorry for my half-witted comment. I promise I'll try to refrain myself in the future when a congress member, a moderator and a former country president quote your reaction instead of taking action.

I could care less what you are/were.

by **MaryamQ** 2011-11-18, 05:03

Nohjis was not referring to himself, RTG, but to those who quoted you, all of whom have held one or more of the offices he names and should know how to get a review going if they want to.

by **RamessesTheGreat** 2011-11-18, 05:24

In that case, I apologize. After you said that Mary, I reread the sentence and noticed I read it wrong.

In a way you are right then. Still, you shouldn't look at it that way, you should look at it as them not doing it so you step up to the plate and do the right thing.

by **NLSP** 2011-11-19, 13:33

RamessesTheGreat wrote:In that case, I apologize. After you said that Mary, I reread the sentence and noticed I read it wrong.

In a way you are right then. Still, you shouldn't look at it that way, you should look at it as them not doing it so you step up to the plate and do the right thing.

However not everyone agrees that this is the right thing...

However if it is a simple 'review', then I can't see what is anything difference with this topic, where people are commenting about the admin's work so everyone can make it's conclusions.

If you find that something else has to happen in congress, every eBelgium citizen, like yourself, has speakingrights in public congress, they can propose a fully written proposal to be taken into voting, ...

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