Fall of Hungary

Well incase you've been under a rock for the past week or so, you probably know that Hungary is down to three regions (They won one back just a few minutes ago). Recently they got initiative back against Croatia and are now fighting for their regions back. It's nothing new to see an empire fall but still makes for interesting discussion don't you think?

Anyway, discuss,
~Ray Captain

Better them then us

found it quite interesting. Especially now Poland has been pushed out of the regio again. Which means that poland has to go down again through slovakia again before they can attack hungary again, and then it will be the one who clicks the attack button the fastest to determine who'll fight where. Also PHX now can keep roemenia blocked by serbia and bulgaria and let hungaria finish of croatia with some blocking help from slovenia. I wonder though why all of the sudden Bosnia-Herzegovina attacked croatia: I thought bosnia was eden?

Bosnia is in EDEN, but Servia has taken a slight majority of Congress. The Balkan states have a lot of RL problems that they take out in this game. Bosnia is a big one. Also off topic, that is the reason Croatia and Servia will probably never be in the same alliance as one another.

That's right - they really hate each others guts, which is a bonus for these eCountries, since this keeps the game exciting for their citizens

They didn't have enough war in RL that even in a game they try to do a remake of yougoslavia war? It's the same whit the rest of the eWorld all they can think is war it's a little disappointing.

Croatia, in the beginning of the game if I'm correct, took over most of Servia when it was just released. And after that, Servia has been trying to take over Croatia and accidentally bringing in RL problems with it. So, in retrospect, if Croatia tried to befriend Servia in the beginning, we could have seen a different change in people bringing RL stereotypes with them.

Hungary isn't falling; just like Poland lost Rhone Âlps when they were under attack from multiple fronts, we're being beaten by that. Also, EDEN has enough multies and cheaters to spend over 100K gold per week, we don't have that many.

Oh please, if you know of any multis and cheaters in EDEN, please report them to the admins and they'll take care of it.

Cheating is not confined to one alliance, it's a problem everywhere and this is one thing alliances should work together on to eliminate as much as possible.

Gregoir wrote:Oh please, if you know of any multis and cheaters in EDEN, please report them to the admins and they'll take care of it.

Cheating is not confined to one alliance, it's a problem everywhere and this is one thing alliances should work together on to eliminate as much as possible.

How big do you think the chances are that I can just walk up to the EDEN Command and tell them I want them to stop making multies? They're not the source. The source are soldiers or congressmen from Poland/Croatia who think they can help their countries by farming gold.

Frerk wrote:
How big do you think the chances are that I can just walk up to the EDEN Command and tell them I want them to stop making multies? They're not the source. The source are soldiers or congressmen from Poland/Croatia who think they can help their countries by farming gold.

Well, find those orgs and multis who are farming gold. Since you are so sure they exist you must be able to find them. Notify the admins and they will take action. Checking out the donation list of an org only takes one click, so get out there and actually find some evidence before casting an entire alliance as a bunch of cheaters..

Checking out the donation list of an org only takes one click, so get out there and actually find some evidence before casting an entire alliance as a bunch of cheaters..

And what do you call PHX then? It's the same story but the other way round. Apparently you are just made to hate the other.

The reason lots of Phoenix members get banned for multi-ing is because the US spends a lot of time researching Phoenix multi farms and reporting them. If you are sure EDEN have multis, you should do the same.

Apotygma wrote:
And what do you call PHX then? It's the same story but the other way round. Apparently you are just made to hate the other.

Yeah cause I go around accusing PHX of being a cheater's alliance without proof all the time

It might have occurred to you some people have better things to do then to go off a list of players; EDEN has over 100,000 citizens, how am I supposed to check all of them? We're trying to set up a department for that but we just lack the people.

Well I'll just say this for EDEN, we don't have our own nickname for what cheaters we do have. Like Rubots >_> lol... Truth is both sides have some cheaters, both sides have some faults, and both sides have patriots that play as fair as fair gets. At the moment, Hungary has lost their empire and, just like Poland, has 'fallen'.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/battles/show/10332
oh sh-

http://www.erepublik.com/en/battles/show/10322

=(

Well yes that is known as a 'win'. The Huns should be getting a few of those in the next few days. However, I highly doubt we'll see any imperial actions from them. Hungary could quite possibly turn out to be the next Indo unless Phoenix really bands together. I do enjoy living in a neutral country XD

Really band together? We're doing everything we can right now with one goal: reuniting hungary.

Frerk wrote:It might have occurred to you some people have better things to do then to go off a list of players; EDEN has over 100,000 citizens, how am I supposed to check all of them? We're trying to set up a department for that but we just lack the people.

Guess that is where I got the jump on the craze. My multi - hunting group has been going strong since August. We have submitted tickets on so many multis, I have lost count on how many. We also have a 90% success rate from what I recently heard from someone who should know.

And for the record, we don't discriminate on who we report. Cheating is a plague through out the game.

RayCaptain wrote:Well yes that is known as a 'win'. The Huns should be getting a few of those in the next few days. However, I highly doubt we'll see any imperial actions from them. Hungary could quite possibly turn out to be the next Indo unless Phoenix really bands together. I do enjoy living in a neutral country XD

Agree whit you but whitout a real war we won't increase our power etheir.

If we were in a war, our power would probably be the first at being decreased

Aldous Zamiatin wrote:If we were in a war, our power would probably be the first at being decreased

We're not the weakest country We have quite a few strong belgians.

We're among the weakest, and we're probably the weakest in our neighbourhood If you're refering to the number of Field Marshals eBelgium officially has, then you should be aware that at least half of them would fight on the attackers side...

Aldous Zamiatin wrote:We're among the weakest, and we're probably the weakest in our neighbourhood If you're refering to the number of Field Marshals eBelgium officially has, then you should be aware that at least half of them would fight on the attackers side...

I'm referring to the RL Belgians who a large amount are currently in the UK. I'm also one of the people who's strong and would fight for Belgium.

Thanks it's good to know that.

That's good news

Well by tomorrow it seems Hungary will be back to its original regions. That was an interesting few days. I enjoy seeing a good battle like that... Now I wonder what's next on the list?

I just hope it won't be us.

Xgentis Lempereur wrote:I just hope it won't be us.

No-one would waste the gold on a war declaration, or the attack cost xD

Yes I know the only thing that can draw us in a war is joining a big alliance and since we don't want to join any alliance we are safe.

Xgentis Lempereur wrote:Yes I know the only thing that can draw us in a war is joining a big alliance and since we don't want to join any alliance we are safe.

Don't be so sure about it you know, eCroatia tried to come through us before even if we where "safe". Nothing guarantees that you will not be attacked, even if I agree that the DOW costs would be quite high to attack such a small country as ours.

For now our neighbour don't seems to be interested in invading fortunately for us but it might change.

All things change in eRep, but you are right, for now our neighbors don't seem that interested in (militarily) attacking us. Now I can think of some Dutch that are probably working on trying to bring us back into the UNL, but they have been pretty good about not advertising the fact, yet.

Thore Thoreson wrote:All things change in eRep, but you are right, for now our neighbors don't seem that interested in (militarily) attacking us. Now I can think of some Dutch that are probably working on trying to bring us back into the UNL, but they have been pretty good about not advertising the fact, yet.

Don't worry about them, honnestly. I'll be aware of it soon enough as I still have access to their congressional section (they didn't want to remove my access). So if they want to attack us I will be aware of it within the 24 h and request and MPP with a country accepting to defend us.

Thore Thoreson wrote:All things change in eRep, but you are right, for now our neighbors don't seem that interested in (militarily) attacking us. Now I can think of some Dutch that are probably working on trying to bring us back into the UNL, but they have been pretty good about not advertising the fact, yet.

WTH? Where do you get that from?

Yeah. The good thing about Belgium's regions is that Brussels is located between Flanders and Wallonia. Even if they manage to to take one or two regions, they would have to go against the (hopefully) strong MPP(s) we signed for defense if they wanted to take Brussels.

Eniotna wrote:
WTH? Where do you get that from?

I didn't say all Dutch, or even the government of the Netherlands, but SOME Dutch.

Thore Thoreson wrote:All things change in eRep, but you are right, for now our neighbors don't seem that interested in (militarily) attacking us. Now I can think of some Dutch that are probably working on trying to bring us back into the UNL, but they have been pretty good about not advertising the fact, yet.

Yes I know I've seen some comments of dutch players who say eBE is rightfully part of the eNLD and should be reclaimed by force if necessary but they are the minority.
But the fact that they still call themselve the eUNL is a evidence of their whish to one day restore the "union" and that our sovereignty is temporary.

But is there is any other neutral country out there? If yes we could try some sort of Non-Aligned Movement.

The Entente is an alliance of neutral countries. I think they're going through a sort of identity crisis right now, though.

Xgentis Lempereur wrote:Yes I know I've seen some comments of dutch players who say eBE is rightfully part of the eNLD and should be reclaimed by force if necessary but they are the minority.
But the fact that they still call themselve the eUNL is a evidence of their whish to one day restore the "union" and that our sovereignty is temporary.

But is there is any other neutral country out there? If yes we could try some sort of Non-Aligned Movement.

We shouldn't spread unnecessary panic either - if I understand correctly, the eUNl is still called the eUNl because of the high number of foreign players living there (quite some RL Belgians as well, but not only them). The eUNl has officially declared to recognize and respect our souvereignity, so unless something unforeseen happens, the chances of a war between our countries aren't that high (taking in consideration the pride the eDutch take at not attacking first unless forced to). Plus, at the moment there is more of us by almost 20% We should focus on improving our relationships instead of fear mongering.

As to other neutral nations, we could contact them to establish diplomatical relations, but I doubt that we'll have sufficient resource soon to sign multiple MPPs

What Aldous sais is 100% right, they consider themselves as a Union of several people coming from several RL countries/IG countries. Not anymore as the union between eBE and eNL

Thore Thoreson wrote:

Eniotna wrote:
WTH? Where do you get that from?

I didn't say all Dutch, or even the government of the Netherlands, but SOME Dutch.

Who?

M.Leviathin wrote:The Entente is an alliance of neutral countries. I think they're going through a sort of identity crisis right now, though.

The Entente leans towards Phoenix. Ukraine is the one who suffers from an identity crisis. A slight majority of their population is pro-EDEN, but the last two governments decided to support Entente/Phoenix.

The only reason it's still called UNL is because 25% of the active population isn't originally Dutch. Even the government has quite a few Belgians in it; not to say 2 Germans and a Bulgarian.

When exactly did this thread change from the "fall of eHungary" and to the eNL?

Either way there doesn't seem to be a threat from the eNL , but as i have said before we don't no what the future holds in this changing (new) world.
Maybe one day they will become a threat to our independence , but that doesn't seem soon.

And the Entente as Eniota as mentioned doesn't seem to be a stable alliance , if we am to join/create an alliance of neutral eNations , they would have to have [/b]Neutral[b] views on the other eNations and Alliances.

Well, in the end, it seems eBelgium faces no immediate threat and the possible threats on the horizon aren't that ferocious... So the only thing to figure out is whom to ally with then? That seems like a nice little change of conversation then.

well, considering ALL our neighbours atm are either PHOENIX or pro-PHOENIX, I'd say we better not join EDEN

We should join nobody unless they are totally NEUTRAL.

Uaregay is a neutral country (I think). What alliance, if any, are they in?

M.Leviathin wrote:Uaregay is a neutral country (I think). What alliance, if any, are they in?

None, no alliance of neutral countries. They are all either pro but not member or totally independent.