Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

by NoTie112 2012-01-05, 11:29

Dear eBelgium,

The elections are full in running. There are 2 major candidates:
*NoTie112 (Me), from the party 'The Dutch Progressives', supported by 'Iron & Wine'
*ElGorro (former CP), from the party 'Democratisch Nederland', supported by 'Geuzen Partij Nederland'

The balance between the parties has been like this for the last couple of month and they are always even; each and every election is exciting to follow. Currently the TDP/I&W block is leading.

by **Nohjis** 2012-01-05, 11:36

Best of luck NoTie112

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2012-01-05, 11:40

Nohjis wrote:Best of luck NoTie112

by **MaryamQ** 2012-01-05, 12:10

Good luck! It does indeed look like an interesting race.

by **Boklevski** 2012-01-05, 13:33

NoTie, based on what I've seen of you in eUNL and later eNL, I'd say you would really deserve it. Good luck!

by **Mudduck95** 2012-01-05, 22:20

Good Luck. You will win I hope.

by NoTie112 2012-01-06, 22:56

The President on the eNetherlands salutes you o/

Anyway, drama has ensued again in our little country. The current president had given everyone 5 pieces of q1 food a day before the elections, with a message about his ambition to be CP added to every Dutch citizen. While this fact was long known, it was brought up when his victory seemed unstoppable.

The president tries to defend himself:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/on-the-subject-of-bribing-1939898/1/20

Fierce articles from the opposition:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/bedorven-brood-nee-dank-je-1940030/1/20
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-demnl-presidental-elections-1940281/1/20
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-004-jesus-died-for-your-sins--1940062/1/20

And the inaugaration of the coming government:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-cp-government-notie-i-cp--1940724/1/20

by **Mudduck95** 2012-01-06, 23:05

So without reading it. I hope that everything works out. And congrats on the win.

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2012-01-06, 23:36

Mudduck95 wrote:So without reading it. I hope that everything works out. And congrats on the win.

by **Olv007** 2012-01-07, 00:08

Congratz to the new eNL prez Wink

by **Nohjis** 2012-01-07, 00:30

So after reading the parts I didn't read yet.

Still, congrats with your win.

In regards to this situation, to me it looks as if ElGorro forgot to take the necessary precautions to win a part of two-clicker votes and in that essence, your personal messaging and setting campaign goals was probably worth a lot more then sending 5 Q1 food to a bunch of eNL citizens.

I personally serve as BTA commander sending new players food on a regular basis, Jofroi did this before me and we both have a strong base of supporters most likely in part thanks to this "job" as well. The most important for you to do is to show your commitment to helping other players out. I believe you've foreseen this.

I do hope everything works out. Wink

by **Jofroi** 2012-01-07, 07:48

Nohjis, most of my votes don't come from the BTA Wink

. They come from the time when I had sexy avatars :p

by **Nohjis** 2012-01-07, 08:02

Jofroi wrote:Nohjis, most of my votes don't come from the BTA . They come from the time when I had sexy avatars :p

That would help too ofcourse Wink

by **MaryamQ** 2012-01-07, 11:28

It does seem to be a bumpy start. I talked to a couple of ElGorro supporters before the election who were confident of a win. It seems they miscalculated. I hope things smooth out a bit during your term and wish you success!

by **Mudduck95** 2012-01-07, 16:43

MaryamQ wrote:It does seem to be a bumpy start. I talked to a couple of ElGorro supporters before the election who were confident of a win. It seems they miscalculated. I hope things smooth out a bit during your term and wish you success!

+1

by NoTie112 2012-01-07, 17:14

Anyway I'm looking forward to a good cooperation with our neighbours, without the 'belgiumsceptism' that currently is the mood in my country. Smile

by **Jofroi** 2012-01-07, 19:17

NoTie112 wrote:Anyway I'm looking forward to a good cooperation with our neighbours, without the 'belgiumsceptism' that currently is the mood in my country.

Here we have the dutchsceptism, everyone got his own problems^^

by **Mudduck95** 2012-01-08, 03:02

We when is Jof going to propose a join of NL and Belgium?

by NoTie112 2012-01-08, 17:36

A rogue congressmember recenty proposed a NE with Belgium. I want to stress that this is NOT majority/government/congress supported and I'll hope it won't detoriate our relations.

by **MaryamQ** 2012-01-08, 17:39

This happens from time to time. We will naturally watch, but I hope our Congress will give you a chance to get the vote turned down.

by **Jofroi** 2012-01-08, 20:31

Mudduck95 wrote:We when is Jof going to propose a join of NL and Belgium?

I'm too lazy to try again Wink

by **Mudduck95** 2012-01-09, 22:56

LOL Jof. Why are you so lazy.

by **Jofroi** 2012-01-10, 06:21

Cause I've a dutch exam next week :p.

Nah true reason is that I'm trying to not be too much active since MG was CP Wink

by **shadowukcs** 2012-01-10, 08:21

Jofroi wrote:Cause I've a dutch exam next week :p.

Nah true reason is that I'm trying to not be too much active since MG was CP

if the level of Dutch of Di Rupo is the standard, you can impossibly fail.

by Mael Dunbar 2012-01-10, 08:50

by NoTie112 2012-10-16, 18:54

Back to serve as ambassador to Belgium!

Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL) - Page 4 Hollandse-klompen-stelten-act-te-boeken1

by Lily Jayne Summers 2012-10-16, 19:01

Welcome! ^_^

If you have any questions, or require any assistance do not hesist to PM myself, or MCKitKat.

~Lily.

by NoTie112 2012-10-27, 15:45

Congress Elections eNetherlands
Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL) - Page 4 EBel

Interesting results, because for the first time in months opposition is forming against current, 4 consectutive president Van Spijck. This mainly includes Libertas (led by me, and first elections for that party), a revived Iron & Wine (I guess Belgians know them.. Razz

) and Democratisch Nederland versus Van Spijck's party Geuzen Partij Nederland & The Progressive Party. It promises to be interesting Presidential Elections.

by **tommot** 2012-10-27, 15:56

Interesting times all around.
Thank's Smile

by **MCKitkat** 2012-10-27, 16:35

Thank you for the update Smile

by NoTie112 2012-11-07, 18:34

For the first time in 4 months, current president Van Spijck had opposition in the form of Iron&Wine member Missingno. However, Van Spijck won without any doubt, and rules on for the -fifth- time. In other news, Poland has announced the stop of the Non Agression Pact with our country.

by **Walhallah** 2013-10-27, 19:28

Hello all,

I have been appointed as eNL ambassador to Belgium. From the looks of it there will be a lot of work for me here Smile

If you have any questions about me or anything relating to eNL, dont hesitate to ask. Also in game.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/4801196

Just to be sure, here is the current eDutch government:

CP: van Spijck
VP: Nomadicracer

MoFA: Piet Heyn
ssoFA: Zeeuwsmeisje

MoD: Trannsvaal
ssoD: theabsolutemonarch/pieper126
advisor: Thanatos the Magnificent

MoF: Weekstrom

MoHA: 071Leiden

MoC: Djirtsdew

MoI:

Advisors: Yfke van de Zand

by **MaryamQ** 2013-10-28, 16:19

Hello, Walhallah. Thanks for presenting yourself and your government here.

by **Walhallah** 2013-10-28, 17:46

MaryamQ wrote:Hello, Walhallah. Thanks for presenting yourself and your government here.

thank you. And it was way overdue Smile

I was informed of some 'misunderstandings' between our governments. If I can do anything from our side to help resolve this, I will.

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2013-10-28, 18:12

Walhallah wrote:I was informed of some 'misunderstandings' between our governments. If I can do anything from our side to help resolve this, I will.

Unless you can make Van Spijck see reason accept me as eBelgiums ambassador to eNetherland I don't think there is much you can do

by **Walhallah** 2013-10-28, 18:44

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
Walhallah wrote:I was informed of some 'misunderstandings' between our governments. If I can do anything from our side to help resolve this, I will.
Unless you can make Van Spijck see reason accept me as eBelgiums ambassador to eNetherland I don't think there is much you can do

Well, its in my role of Ambassador to clarify my own governments views. Its already difficult enough, from what I read everywhere. I think I should stay on my side of the line in this game, in order to prevent even more confusion.

by **Walhallah** 2013-10-28, 22:58

here are the views of the eDutch Government:

eNetherlands wrote:Dear government of eBelgium,

it is our governments view that eBelgium is a long time friend and ally, throughout the history of Erepublik. Some times are better, sometimes its more challenging.
Because of this, our government believes that eBelgium and eNetherlands should work towards the warmest possible political relations, of the magnitude that many of our citizens also have and maintain day in and day out in the game, amongst themselves.

It is our governments view that this should be accompanied by sending envoys with a solid reputation in both countries. The eNetherlands government acknowledges that Fhaemita Malodorous more than meets the criteria from the eBelgian perspective, and thanks its eBelgian counterpart for sending such a renowned candidate.

However, during the last month certain unfortunate events saw the light in which the relation between our government and mr Fhaemita Malodorous became seriously troubled. The story is long and complicated, but in effect mr Fhaemita Malodorous admitted to have distributed classified information from our forum to a foreign entity. Also he admitted he would do it again. Seeing how this is a breach of the eNetherlandic equivalent of your 'State Secrets Act' mr Fhaemita Malodorous had his Expatriate/Trusted Ambassador status removed by our Congress, by majority vote.

Our government was further grieved by the swift return of mr Fhaemita Malodorous in a formal position from a friendly country, and seeing the previous events this seems remarkably fast. It raises questions within our government if the eBelgian government was fully aware of the sensitivities in this case or perhaps misinformed.

Added to that, mr Malodorous returned with a statement, and I quote "Hello, I am the new Belgian Ambassador to Autocracy of vanSpijckistan, i mean Banana Republic of the Netherlands' http://puu.sh/4XJo8.png This is ofcourse not according to the respect any chosen Country President and Government deserves.

Seeing the above events, eNetherlands government believes that with our long standing relationship Ambassadors should be exchanged with mutual respect and understanding of the sensitivities on both sides, and respectfully requests the eBelgian government to reconsider mr Malodorous' position, so we can work in a constructive way to improve our countries relations in a reopened Embassy.

These are the views of the eNetherlands government.

Kind regards

Walhallah
Ambassador

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2013-10-28, 23:13

With all due respect, I don't think bringing this discussion to this forum will help the situation, the government of eNetherlands and eBelgium has had many discussion about this. Your President has send many PM's about the issue and has been spamming and almost harassing the person who is responsible for our ambassadors to remove me as ambassador to eNetherlands.

Our government is fully aware of what has happened and has made multiple statements to the government of eNetherlands and on the eNetherlands forum that they support, and will keep supporting me as ambassador to eNetherlands. I would also like to state that the choice of a ambassador is the choice of a sovereign country and not of the country who receive the ambassador. Although they can make a request they can never make a demand like the President of eNetherland has been doing from the start. It is disrespectful towards eBelgium and breach of our sovereignty.

I am, and will remain until my government decide otherwise the Belgian ambassador to eNetherlands. And I hope that your goverment will show respect to me in my position as ambassador as also to y country eBelgian and is willing to accept me as ambassador and is willing to let me open an embassy on your forum. Also it would be appreciated if members of your government would stop deleting my post in the ambassador section of your forum.

As I've been told your President has taken it up himself to take it to COT to complain about me and Belgium. There also been meetings with the Secretary General of COT but until this moment there has not been any solution for this issue. Seeing it has been taken to a higher level above our "pay grades" I do not see how this discussion will contribute to the situation.

Sincerly yours,

The Valeyard / Fhaemita Malodorous
eBelgiums Ambassador to eNetherlands

by **Konrad Neumann** 2013-10-29, 02:10

Walhallah wrote:here are the views of the eDutch Government:

eNetherlands wrote:Dear government of eBelgium,

it is our governments view that eBelgium is a long time friend and ally, throughout the history of Erepublik. Some times are better, sometimes its more challenging.
Because of this, our government believes that eBelgium and eNetherlands should work towards the warmest possible political relations, of the magnitude that many of our citizens also have and maintain day in and day out in the game, amongst themselves.

It is our governments view that this should be accompanied by sending envoys with a solid reputation in both countries. The eNetherlands government acknowledges that Fhaemita Malodorous more than meets the criteria from the eBelgian perspective, and thanks its eBelgian counterpart for sending such a renowned candidate.

However, during the last month certain unfortunate events saw the light in which the relation between our government and mr Fhaemita Malodorous became seriously troubled. The story is long and complicated, but in effect mr Fhaemita Malodorous admitted to have distributed classified information from our forum to a foreign entity. Also he admitted he would do it again. Seeing how this is a breach of the eNetherlandic equivalent of your 'State Secrets Act' mr Fhaemita Malodorous had his Expatriate/Trusted Ambassador status removed by our Congress, by majority vote.

Our government was further grieved by the swift return of mr Fhaemita Malodorous in a formal position from a friendly country, and seeing the previous events this seems remarkably fast. It raises questions within our government if the eBelgian government was fully aware of the sensitivities in this case or perhaps misinformed.

Added to that, mr Malodorous returned with a statement, and I quote "Hello, I am the new Belgian Ambassador to Autocracy of vanSpijckistan, i mean Banana Republic of the Netherlands' http://puu.sh/4XJo8.png This is ofcourse not according to the respect any chosen Country President and Government deserves.

Seeing the above events, eNetherlands government believes that with our long standing relationship Ambassadors should be exchanged with mutual respect and understanding of the sensitivities on both sides, and respectfully requests the eBelgian government to reconsider mr Malodorous' position, so we can work in a constructive way to improve our countries relations in a reopened Embassy.

These are the views of the eNetherlands government.

Kind regards

Walhallah
Ambassador

Welcome ambassador. We know of your government stance and we know that you personally is not part of the dispute and this is why MaryamQ and I decided to allow your post as ambassador. We do not want to follow the step of your government to reject people base on non-related events.

My personal issue is the way van Spjick and his government behaved. The spam and harassment which could equate to bullying. van Spjick and government did not give personal space to our MoFA. When I am asked my MaryamQ to resolve this issue, all I get from them is accusations from them that I am trying to destroy eNL's government and I am bad. van Spjick also threaten eBE with war if we do not follow their demands. We know his threats are hollow but we do not appreciate this tone and attempts to intimidate and bully us to do what he wants. In the end, eBE is an independent sovereign country.

My concerns is that your government just do not understand this. As we speak, your government dismiss this as an minor issue. I do not think our government take it so lightly as it is a huge violation of norms. We do not bully and tell you who you can send and how to govern your affairs, but it seems eNL has no problems to do it to us.

Lastly, the role of the ambassador is a minor role. Fhaemita was an eNL citizen and his rights was removed for political reasons. GPN controls more of the congress but GPN is not all of eNL. I&W, Libertas, DemNL has no issue with Fhaemita at all. But this is your business not ours. We honestly do not care about your political fights. But to deny Fhaemita to do what you just did, post things on your forum of our gov or letters etc, this is personal and nothing more.

At this point, all we want is to not have such bullying of our minister and citizens in the future. I know vS dismiss this claim and called it an exaggeration, but we are DEAD serious. Such behavior will not be tolerated again in the future. Like I said, this conflict is not about you and we do hope that you enjoy your stay. I hope our citizens will treat you with respect. Lastly, I think we are being more than generous to accept ambassador from eNL so soon and we really hope that you will reopen our embassy soon.

Welcome to eBE.

by **Boklevski** 2013-10-29, 11:50

LOL! You must have done something epic Fhea, as they wrote a whole wall of text about you!

What's that info you leaked?

I loved your (re)introduction when you came back to their forum by the way.

[END OF TROLL]

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2013-10-29, 12:28

Note: Numbers between brackets are actual screenshots.

Boklevski wrote:LOL! You must have done something epic Fhea, as they wrote a whole wall of text about you!
What's that info you leaked?

That's nothing, I've been told that there are a lot of topics (2 active) about me/this situation in their (private) congress Razz

van Spijck talked about what to do about having regions for no long and his MoFA suggested PTO'ing a small TWO/ACT country (1) and van Spijck agreed with the plan to PTO a small TWO/ACT country and that it could be a solution (2). Two days later Wilpanzer (who was VP at the time and a friend of van Spijck) made a topic on eSA forums about van Spijck and part of his MU wanting to move to eSA (who recently became pro TWO). I posted two screenshots about van Spijck and his MoFA talking about PTO'ing a small TWO/ACT country and the topic fairly quickly disappeared.

I found out through a congressman who showed me more screenshots of private congress topic about PTO'ing a small TWO/ACT country started bij Van Spijck(3) and where his MoFA discussed how best to do such a thing(4). van Spijck also was spreading lies in that topic about eSouth Africa being PTO'ed by TWO/Poland because they recently went pro TWO and the CP at the time was previously Polish(5). This was ofcourse not true, the president had been a member of eSA community for more then 6 months. eSA wasn't PTO by Poland or TWO and eSA always had Polish people in their community really. I also showed eSA screenshots of that topic and after that van Spijck changed his mind about coming to eSA with part of his MU and ran for President of eNL again instead.

Anyway, after that according to van Spijck I was a TWO spy and made nasty comments that I should be hung because it was time of war. van Spijck en his party removed my access from their congress and since then I've been a traitor and a TWO spy in the eyes of van Spijck and most of his party. van Spijck call me a liar and that it was just "hypothetical" or that they wanted to help with ATO. Until this moment I am the one showing screenshots and proof of my side of the story and van Spijck even after request of multiple citizens refused to make the topic(s) public but keep calling me a liar.

There is a lot more wrong in eNL as can be read in this article written by Garmr. My access got removed, Wilpanzer who was friends with van Spijck and defended him changed his mind about van Spijck and got his access removed on eNL forums and currently they (van Spijck and his party) are trying to blacklist Garmr (who recently returned to eNL) for being disrespectful. Besides that, left and right forum post are being removed by van Spijck's government if they don't like them. I am eBE's ambassador to eNL and my embassy was closed and multiple post where removed and that happens to more people.

Spoiler:

by **Walhallah** 2013-10-29, 16:24

Konrad Neumann wrote:
Lastly, the role of the ambassador is a minor role. Fhaemita was an eNL citizen and his rights was removed for political reasons. GPN controls more of the congress but GPN is not all of eNL. I&W, Libertas, DemNL has no issue with Fhaemita at all. But this is your business not ours. We honestly do not care about your political fights. But to deny Fhaemita to do what you just did, post things on your forum of our gov or letters etc, this is personal and nothing more.

It would be unwise for me to engage in a discussion about the contents of the dispute. I dont believe it will serve its goal. My goal is to clarify our governments view through the channels that are existing for that, the Embassy. You say his rights were removed for a political reason. I am not aware of any such event. His rights were removed by Congress, by majority vote. GPN had, nor has, an absolute majority in our Congress. Moreover, my own party BG is not represented in Congress, altho we should be.

As far as im aware mr Malodorous is still posting on the eNL forum. I would have to check that to be certain. All i know is that our government requested the reconsideration of an ambassador, which is in this case an indivual that our Government AND Congress had a serious issue with in the recent past. My government doesnt understand why a long time ally and friend would force an ambassador to them that is known to be not welcome at this stage.

But most importantly, there is not much point trying to convince me. Im here to shed light on the view of our government. I think the discussion should take place on a different level. Anyway it doesnt seem wise for me to play chess on that board.

Konrad Neumann wrote:
Welcome to eBE.

thank you!

by **NLSP** 2013-10-29, 16:32

First of all welcome Smile

Walhallah wrote:My government doesnt understand why a long time ally and friend would force an ambassador to them that is known to be not welcome at this stage.

I don't understand why your government didn't friendly contact the eBe government instead of making a difficult situation even worse by offending the eBelgian State and closing down the eBe embassy.

Walhallah wrote:But most importantly, there is not much point trying to convince me. Im here to shed light on the view of our government. I think the discussion should take place on a different level. Anyway it doesnt seem wise for me to play chess on that board.

I think that everyone here understands that your job is solely to convey your government's opinion to us and report back to your government about the eBe's gov and citizen's reactions.

by **Boklevski** 2013-10-29, 17:04

Walhallah wrote:My goal is to clarify our governments view

And we understand and are grateful to hear both sides of the story.

Actually, I'm sure that Fhea will allow you to copy the explanation in his post of Oct 29, 2013 at 12:28 pm in your personal newspaper in eNL. It would be good when also the full eDutch population would hear both sides of the story.

Of course, he would be happy to post it himself in the Embassy section. But that is kinda impossible due to these events.

by **Walhallah** 2013-10-29, 17:44

NLSP wrote:I don't understand why your government didn't friendly contact the eBe government instead of making a difficult situation even worse by offending the eBelgian State and closing down the eBe embassy.

I shall ask them this. Altho it is/was my impression that they did that at first.

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2013-10-29, 17:48

Walhallah wrote:I shall ask them this. Altho it is/was my impression that they did that at first.

I can tell you for sure that wasn't the case

by **Walhallah** 2013-10-29, 18:49

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
Walhallah wrote:I shall ask them this. Altho it is/was my impression that they did that at first.
I can tell you for sure that wasn't the case

While awaiting a formal reply from my government, I found this, what appears to be the first request.
I cannot judge if it is perceived friendly or not, but from the looks of it eBelgium Government complied with this request. I believe this partly solves the myth of 'threats'. From the looks of it, eBelgium apologized for the situation.

http://puu.sh/4Yci5.png

From my side, I will be happy to inform my government about the reasons to revert this decision. No doubt there will be a good explanation for that too.

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2013-10-29, 19:31

Walhallah wrote:From my side, I will be happy to inform my government about the reasons to revert this decision. No doubt there will be a good explanation for that too.

*sighs*
This was happened right after our embassy was closed and that was a miscommunication.
This screenshot is almost a week old, and after that enough else has happened.
After that our CP told your goverment that this was a miscommunication and that I was still ambassador and your CP/MoFA still refused to open de embassy.

I have no clue why we are talking about outdated stuff that was just a miscommunication.

by **Konrad Neumann** 2013-10-29, 19:46

At this point, I really question the sincerity of the eNL government. They gave us an ambassador and out of decency we keep yours open. However, your government feels the right to reject our people. When I volunteer for the post, vS reject me and say I am out to destroy your government etc. You close our embassy and you congress is voting no to reopen. Diplomacy is a two way street and I think eBE is more than generous here.

Fact is:

1) Your government kicked out our ambassador
2) Your CP and MoFA harassed members of our government
3) Your closed our embassy and deleted some of the contents Fhaemita wrote.
4) vS threaten eBE with war
5) I was personally attacked in my attempts to resolve this issue
6) Your congress is voting no to reopen our embassy while we extend you the right to have yours.

All I see is eNL trying to bully us to comply to your demands and wishes. Never in my 5-6 years of playing this game did I witness a rejection of an ambassador. Also I think eBE was more than fair to deal with the insults, harassment, and threats from eNL. We are more than fair and kind to even have this dialogue.

MaryamQ does not tolerate harassment and bullying. MaryamQ did not remove Fhae as ambassador for there was no legit reason to do so. The picture you post was a misunderstanding on our part but soon we notified your government that Fhaemita was indeed our representative. eBE did not apologize and will not apologize for we did nothing wrong. The whole crisis is cause by some people in eNL and their personal vendetta against Fhaemita. eBE will not be the tool of GPN and others in their ploy for revenge against fhaemita.

I really question eNL at this time as they want to send us ambassadors and imaging things are ok while they continue to close our embassy, and behave in the same way.

Bullying and threats are not ok. If I have it my way, I would demand an apology before we even talk now. MaryamQ is more tolerant than I am and I am really angry that your government refuse to acknowledge of their misdeed and continue not learn from it. He complains about us as bad allies because we send him "bad" ambassadors. What kind of allies are you (eNL) when you harass, bully and threaten us? I rather send "bad" people than to act so aggressive and hostile to a friend...

by **Walhallah** 2013-10-29, 20:21

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
Walhallah wrote:From my side, I will be happy to inform my government about the reasons to revert this decision. No doubt there will be a good explanation for that too.
*sighs*
This was happened right after our embassy was closed and that was a miscommunication.
This screenshot is almost a week old, and after that enough else has happened.
After that our CP told your goverment that this was a miscommunication and that I was still ambassador and your CP/MoFA still refused to open de embassy.

I have no clue why we are talking about outdated stuff that was just a miscommunication.

Well, essentially because people here were interested to check if the first communication from the side of the eNetherlands Government was unfriendly. I merely tried to find traces of that communication. I believe there is no contradiction between 'first communication' and 'outdated'. But im sorry if that appears to be the case.

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