Forum Admins

by **BrunoCND** 2013-02-26, 18:35

Who are the forum admins? I know Pieter but are there others?

by **Mudduck95** 2013-02-26, 18:43

Thomas and Critically.

by **MCKitkat** 2013-02-26, 18:54

BrunoCND wrote:Who are the forum admins? I know Pieter but are there others?

Here is the full list:

http://www.erepbelgium.com/g1-administrators

by **Pieter557** 2013-02-26, 18:57

This seems hardly a question for congress :-P

by **cliffie** 2013-02-26, 18:59

They're lazy, and they're happy with it.

The most active admin we had was thrown away, so that all of us can be insulted freely by shadowukcs.

by **Mudduck95** 2013-02-26, 19:01

cliffie wrote:They're lazy, and they're happy with it.

The most active admin we had was thrown away, so that all of us can be insulted freely by shadowukcs.

LOL. To bad that shadow is to busy to care about us right now.

by **shadowukcs** 2013-02-26, 19:06

cliffie wrote:They're lazy, and they're happy with it.

The most active admin we had was thrown away, so that all of us can be insulted freely by shadowukcs.

Are your referring to the time when I was admin on this board? Coz I was a p active admin.

by **Mudduck95** 2013-02-26, 19:10

Not now. And when were you an admin?

by **MCKitkat** 2013-02-26, 19:37

Moved the topic to eRepBelgium. If you want to start a vote or anything then you can open a new one in the debate are to debate.

by **Mudduck95** 2013-02-26, 19:39

Why do we need a vote it was a question?

by **Pieter557** 2013-02-26, 19:42

Mudduck95 wrote:Why do we need a vote it was a question?

To get rid of current admins etc...

by **Mudduck95** 2013-02-26, 19:48

Oh! Well I personally do not see anything wrong with the ones we have now.

by **MCKitkat** 2013-02-26, 19:50

Mudduck95 wrote:Oh! Well I personally do not see anything wrong with the ones we have now.

And it will certainly do nothing Razz

by **Mudduck95** 2013-02-26, 19:52

That is true! We do not have enough people here as it is to take all the jobs and be admins, which are not suppose to be bias.

by **Jofroi** 2013-02-26, 21:23

That and you cannot vote admin down :p. They cannot be voted down by congress.

by **Critically** 2013-02-26, 22:16

Long live the immunity ! Very Happy

by **Mudduck95** 2013-02-26, 22:53

haha you think your so funny Critically.

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2013-02-27, 00:20

Pieter557 wrote:
Mudduck95 wrote:Why do we need a vote it was a question?

To get rid of current admins etc...

Good plan

But in all seriousness I still think we dont need 3 admins and 3(or 4) mods
TR activity has been almost nothing for months? why is he even still admin?

by **Mudduck95** 2013-02-27, 04:07

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:
Pieter557 wrote:
Mudduck95 wrote:Why do we need a vote it was a question?

To get rid of current admins etc...

Good plan
But in all seriousness I still think we dont need 3 admins and 3(or 4) mods
TR activity has been almost nothing for months? why is he even still admin?

I agree on that point, plus things on the forum have been a lot smoother. But I think, not completely sure, but isn't ThomasRed the owner of the forum?

Also I do not have a problem with the admins Critically is in Germany and is on the forum some, TR well who knows about him, and Pieter is active like always and sets things up well.

by **Coprolyth** 2013-02-27, 05:13

Mudduck95 wrote:Oh! Well I personally do not see anything wrong with the ones we have now.

I do.
Activity wise, it's superbad.

Side little note :
Most admins are biased.
Most admins arent even from eBelgium.

To me, it's common sens that eBelgium should vote for the admins. Since it's the eBelgium forum.

This make the whole IRC+Forum unhealthy.
As an exemple, Naedak came for the first time on IRC. Been accused for being my multi (yyeeey, happens everyday)

Konrad was being rly disrespectful, insult me repetitively after I asked to stop. Pieter was there and writed.
Yet, he didnt do anything to help the situation. (I screened, once again.)

Pieter is actually the least bad from all the admins so...

At first I didnt want to bitch about the whole thing but since Bruno bring it up, my party and me, we have some serious issue toward the actual admins. (how much time to give Naedak his CM ?)
Two weeks needed for MrBomb while I pm'ed all the admin on forum and irc.

Please, do not bring the security of the forum. Even if you give the admin right, you can still prevent them from stealing the forum.
In case of ultrahardcoore haters admins, we can backup the forum if there is a massive delete situation. (that's maybe harder but I know travian official forum did it once so it's definitly possible)

GrumpyCoryn reporting out.

by **MCKitkat** 2013-02-27, 08:11

Coprolyth wrote:
Mudduck95 wrote:Oh! Well I personally do not see anything wrong with the ones we have now.

I do.
Activity wise, it's superbad.

Side little note :
Most admins are biased.
Most admins arent even from eBelgium.

To me, it's common sens that eBelgium should vote for the admins. Since it's the eBelgium forum.

This make the whole IRC+Forum unhealthy.
As an exemple, Naedak came for the first time on IRC. Been accused for being my multi (yyeeey, happens everyday)

Konrad was being rly disrespectful, insult me repetitively after I asked to stop. Pieter was there and writed.
Yet, he didnt do anything to help the situation. (I screened, once again.)

Pieter is actually the least bad from all the admins so...

At first I didnt want to bitch about the whole thing but since Bruno bring it up, my party and me, we have some serious issue toward the actual admins. (how much time to give Naedak his CM ?)
Two weeks needed for MrBomb while I pm'ed all the admin on forum and irc.

Please, do not bring the security of the forum. Even if you give the admin right, you can still prevent them from stealing the forum.

In case of ultrahardcoore haters admins, we can backup the forum if there is a massive delete situation. (that's maybe harder but I know travian official forum did it once so it's definitly possible)

GrumpyCoryn reporting out.

You can't Do anything against the admins. Look around the debate area people already tried to go against the admins and they didn't suceeded. The admins have to some RL and work. You can't change the admins even if you have the whole congress behind you. If you are unhappy make your own Forum. CoC is responsible for CM's and MoHA should be responsible for citizen masks.

by **Jofroi** 2013-02-27, 08:19

And if u're afraid that admins will use the information they find on this forum to give them to foreign powers, I doubt it'll ever be the case^^.

by **Coprolyth** 2013-02-27, 12:39

MCKitkat wrote:You can't change the admins even if you have the whole congress behind you.

And you think it's normal ? That the official eBelgium forum/irc admin are poeple that eBelgium do not want as admin or we can't do anything about it ?

And if u're afraid that admins will use the information they find on this forum to give them to foreign powers, I doubt it'll ever be the case^^.

I didnt talk about that in my post. But it's a possibility.
When I came here for the first time, I reported some questionable act by Kylero. Part of the community said "it's ok, we know him, no worries".

Now he made private gouvernement message public, accepted a guy that the IO reject. And it wasnt a mistake.
You guys still manage to give him the congress access, it's funny how you are able to accuse everyone for being a PTO but once one of your friends is obviously trying to hurt eBelgium, you give him to tool to reoffend.

I have proves that a close friends of the IRC admins, (MaryamQ, critically) have been part of some serious PTO in the past.

If we can't chose our admins, this shoudnt be called eBelgium IRC/forum.

Im only asking for a proper moderation on IRC and less delay to give the CM mask. You can keep the forum to your email, and keep the IRC channel to your nickname. I don't care.

Set a vote to choose monthly !op and admins won't hurt. (democracy, pleeeaasse !)
- Increase the activity.
- Real moderation on IRC would be welcome.

by **Critically** 2013-02-27, 13:57

Coprolyth wrote:

I have proves that a close friends of the IRC admins, (MaryamQ, critically) have been part of some serious PTO in the past.

Invalid argument, you don't know the situation back then. Indeed we tried to PTO a party, but it was for the good of eBe, we never tried to harm it. Let me be clear, learn your history before you talk about things you can't and don't understand!

I won't react on the other arguments because this is not my debate.

by **Coprolyth** 2013-02-27, 14:00

I didnt talk about a PTO of a party but good to know.

by **Critically** 2013-02-27, 14:07

Coprolyth wrote:I didnt talk about a PTO of a party but good to know.

So about what PTO attempt are you talking ?

by **Coprolyth** 2013-02-27, 14:12

Just saying.
I don't rly care, it's just kind of hurting that Babyboom get accused for being PTO by this guy. Everyday on IRC.

Any other player with his attitude would have been temporarily banned. (do I need to bring screen where I get personally attacked repetitively as well ?)

We need some non-biaised admin on this channel.

by **Critically** 2013-02-27, 14:17

but that's about Konrad, didn't know he's an admin/mod ?

by **Coprolyth** 2013-02-27, 14:20

And this is why I said :

I have proves that a close friends of the IRC admins, (MaryamQ, critically) have been part of some serious PTO in the past.

are you denying that Konrad is your friends as well ?
Konrad can only act like this because of his relationship with you guys, and that's not normal.

by **Gyantse** 2013-02-27, 14:20

Coprolyth you really obsessed with poor Konrad Razz

by **Gyantse** 2013-02-27, 14:21

Coprolyth wrote:And this is why I said :
I have proves that a close friends of the IRC admins, (MaryamQ, critically) have been part of some serious PTO in the past.

are you denying that Konrad is your friends as well ?
Konrad can only act like this because of his relationship with you guys, and that's not normal.

Dont talking bad about ex great Belgians, pls.

by **Gyantse** 2013-02-27, 14:22

And how can you have proves, if you are here only for some time, they already leave BE before you join.

by **Coprolyth** 2013-02-27, 14:31

Gyantse wrote:Coprolyth you really obsessed with poor Konrad

I had the feeling Konrad was obsessed by me ! We should eMarry each other then I love you

Gyantse wrote:Dont talking bad about ex great Belgians, pls.

ok

And how can you have proves, if you are here only for some time, they already leave BE before you join.

Well... Konrad isnt the most clever guy I met on the internet I might say. Most of my proves comes from his buthurt non sens on IRC.

Gyantse here is a powerful tool, use it wisely in the futur ^.^
Forum Admins 33kw01s

Sorry for teasing you like that

by **Gyantse** 2013-02-27, 15:09

Why should I use EDIT button ? O.o

And btw Konrad is already married.

by **MCKitkat** 2013-02-27, 16:24

Coprolyth wrote:
MCKitkat wrote:You can't change the admins even if you have the whole congress behind you.

And you think it's normal ? That the official eBelgium forum/irc admin are poeple that eBelgium do not want as admin or we can't do anything about it ?

Besides ThomasRed everyone is fine with the admins we have right now, the only thing that can be improved is the mask system, but that can simply be given to the MoHA. You are pretty new here, so you don't know how eBelgium is and how our admins are. It may be the official eBelgium forum but if you can't accept the work of the admins here please create your own forum and IRC chat for eBelgium and let's see how many people join that forum and how many people will complain.

Coprolyth wrote:
And if u're afraid that admins will use the information they find on this forum to give them to foreign powers, I doubt it'll ever be the case^^.

I didnt talk about that in my post. But it's a possibility.
When I came here for the first time, I reported some questionable act by Kylero. Part of the community said "it's ok, we know him, no worries".

Now he made private gouvernement message public, accepted a guy that the IO reject. And it wasnt a mistake.
You guys still manage to give him the congress access, it's funny how you are able to accuse everyone for being a PTO but once one of your friends is obviously trying to hurt eBelgium, you give him to tool to reoffend.

People do s*** everytime, Kylero and many others have done a lot of things for eBelgiums good, ofcourse they do sometimes questionable things but that isn't forever. They will change, there is always a reason for their reaction and when the reason is gone I'm sure they get back to work for eBelgiums good.

Coprolyth wrote:I have proves that a close friends of the IRC admins, (MaryamQ, critically) have been part of some serious PTO in the past.

If we can't chose our admins, this shoudnt be called eBelgium IRC/forum.

Im only asking for a proper moderation on IRC and less delay to give the CM mask. You can keep the forum to your email, and keep the IRC channel to your nickname. I don't care.

Set a vote to choose monthly !op and admins won't hurt. (democracy, pleeeaasse !)
- Increase the activity.
- Real moderation on IRC would be welcome.

You shouldn't criticize people which you don't know. Konrad and many other did great things for eBelgium when you wheren't here. Okay maybe Konrad is going a bit too far but that's his way. It's like shadow doing what the hell he wants. That's his way and if we like it or not he doesn't care. He too has done great things for eBelgium.

Even without proper moderation, this is still the eBelgium forum, ofcourse the mask system has to be improved but besides that, everything is fine. We vote the moderators, they check if everything is okay. The admins supervise their work and keep the forum going.

by **MCKitkat** 2013-02-27, 16:31

Coprolyth wrote:

Just saying.
I don't rly care, it's just kind of hurting that Babyboom get accused for being PTO by this guy. Everyday on IRC.

Any other player with his attitude would have been temporarily banned. (do I need to bring screen where I get personally attacked repetitively as well ?)

We need some non-biaised admin on this channel.

Konrad is also accusing HOPE and Wim to be PTO'ers so? Get over it, RB, ATO and all the "old" parties get also accused by HOPE to be the dictators who are abusing the "clicking class". Simply no one cares about what others say. If everyone would be bitching around because someone is accusing them of sth, then this world wouldn't be worth living. Sorry to use this harsh words but you are too eYoung to know how this works, I am to too eYoung. Does shadow give a damn if people bitch because he's being mad. No, he doesn't give a damn.

You get attacked, go to the SC and tell them. Maybe they can do sth for you, it's not our case, or our problem. Until now it is your problem so why do we others have to change things if the minority isn't happy with the system.

Voting admins and moderators every time would be too bureaucratic and nothing would be done, because if you start something, people aren't happy and vote you down. You simple can't work like that.

Again, I'm sorry to be so harsh and all but i just have to say this. I also need to be serious sometime.

by **Coprolyth** 2013-02-27, 17:09

MCKitkat wrote:
You shouldn't criticize people which you don't know. Konrad and many other did great things for eBelgium when you wheren't here. Okay maybe Konrad is going a bit too far but that's his way.

Can you explain why I shoudnt criticize him ? being an old member doesnt give you the holy immunity.

You're right about one thing, I wasnt there when he did great things for eBelgium but I'll be glad if you list them to me.

I can still judge a guy by his act, I wasnt there before but I am now.
And right now, Konrad is hurting eBelgium, trashtalking the whole Babyboom Party, H.O.P.E party as well, he made a personnal vendetta on IRC toward any Babyboom members, for him, donation became a crime just because Babyboom did it.
Not only on IRC, he's abusing his FoC for his personnal vendetta as well :
http://www.erepbelgium.com/t8512-anti-vote-buying-law

When a guy is being disrepectful on a regular bases, showing only anger and insult, I think it's legitimate for me or any other citizen to criticize him.

Kylero and many others have done a lot of things for eBelgiums good, ofcourse they do sometimes questionable things but that isn't forever.

-Scam
-Public Insult
-PTO an eBelgian party.
-Accept threat in eBelgium for fun.
-Buy vote for his CP article.

Except for the PTO part, he did all this in a month time. What's the positive thing he has done for eBelgium ? Tracking multi ?

I didnt put him back in congress so that blood isnt on my hand. If you're trying to prove Belgium is vulnerable to a PTO, you're doing it right.

it's not our case, or our problem. Until now it is your problem so why do we others have to change things if the minority isn't happy with the system.

Define "our" please.
Because I can say it's our problem too. Im not alone in this.

eBelgium IRC abuse isnt a personnal problem.
If it's rly the minority that isnt happy with the system, why can't we vote about it ?

Stop comparing Konrad to Shadow. they're different on so many level.

Anyway, we're way out of topic right now.

If we can't chose our admins, this shoudnt be called eBelgium IRC/forum.

Im only asking for a proper moderation on IRC and less delay to give the CM mask. You can keep the forum to your email, and keep the IRC channel to your nickname. I don't care.

Set a vote to choose monthly !op and admins won't hurt. (democracy, pleeeaasse !)
- Increase the activity.
- Real moderation on IRC would be welcome.

by **Stijn Puttemans** 2013-02-27, 17:47

At first we have to know who is in charge of what.

Admins run the forum and irc. They give people access and rights. For some parts of the forum, the admins gave those rights to other people like the CoC for congress. As admin you should be online ones a day, to give people their masks. As example: if we choose a new IO, this person should have the mask within 24h.
If we as a community find that the admins aren't doing their job properly, we should be able to change admin. Maybe we can choose an extra admin every month ( or 2 or 3 months ). As it is important that TR and Pieter stay admin as founding fathers.

Mods are here to oversee everyone and take actions when people don't behave.

I find that when person finds himself harmed by an other player on this forum or on IRC. The mods should hear the players and take actions.

When mods are online when these things happen, they should react immediately. So when they don't, they aren't doing their job correctly and we should choose new mods...

@Coprolyth: If you as CM are not okay with Konrad having a FoC, you can always propose to the congress to take away his mask.

by **boer jan** 2013-02-27, 17:54

wow, this topic made a big turn Shocked

about the admins, the best we had is chased away, he knew every line every law better than anyone else but he was not good enough for some people.
Red, well he owns the forum without him, bye bye forum.
so there are two left, a lion and a pinguin, and we have to do it with them.
I had trouble with acces for our party, a pm and the next day it was aranged, I did not shouted or whatever, just asked it, they are human too, if we want fast action 24/24 think we must hire them and pay a wage.

for the rest written here above, I was shocked that someone mentioned MaryamQ in the same phrase as the word PTO, she did more than we all together for eBe.
Some month's ago we had a similar problem, that collapsed with as result that a lot of really good people left our country, after that, the bichers left also, leaving us to rebuild some trust and courage, please do not start again. ignore the ones you do not like, and keep the others as friend

by **Yannis** 2013-02-27, 18:42

I agree with Stijn.

@boer jan: we could also improve the way admins work, like having a way to post requests about the forum to a place zhere all admins can check. Also being an admin is voluntary work but still needs some minimal commitment, and if it's too much work we could consider to appoint new ones Wink

And about MaryamQ, I'm also technically too eYoung to confirm the facts. MaryamQ is a lovely person and she deserves respect but that doesn't mean we should put a taboo around her as long as it stays respectful.

And about Coryn, I think he's too impulsive this time imo. BUT what I absolutely don't agree with is doubting of his capacity of judgement because of his eAge. It can be the reason of him lacking some information and it's our responsibility to fill that gap, but this doesn't mean his researches about the past are irrelevant. He's eYoung yes, but please don't abuse of it.

MCKitkat wrote: MoHA should be responsible for citizen masks.

Good idea, you could start a debate about it cat

by **Gyantse** 2013-02-27, 19:03

Coprolyth wrote:
MCKitkat wrote:
You shouldn't criticize people which you don't know. Konrad and many other did great things for eBelgium when you wheren't here. Okay maybe Konrad is going a bit too far but that's his way.

Can you explain why I shoudnt criticize him ? being an old member doesnt give you the holy immunity.

You're right about one thing, I wasnt there when he did great things for eBelgium but I'll be glad if you list them to me.

I can still judge a guy by his act, I wasnt there before but I am now.
And right now, Konrad is hurting eBelgium, trashtalking the whole Babyboom Party, H.O.P.E party as well, he made a personnal vendetta on IRC toward any Babyboom members, for him, donation became a crime just because Babyboom did it.
Not only on IRC, he's abusing his FoC for his personnal vendetta as well :
http://www.erepbelgium.com/t8512-anti-vote-buying-law

When a guy is being disrepectful on a regular bases, showing only anger and insult, I think it's legitimate for me or any other citizen to criticize him.

They dont have holy immunity, they are just old players who gave a lot of their free time for eBelgium and many of them arent Belgian in RL. If you criticize some of them without proves, you get a lot of enemies at older players. If you criticize MaryamQ, that she is PTOer this mean that I am too PTOer, cause she help me get my CS and approve it.

And about Konrad and others. I sugest you that you ignore them, get some experiance and d something for BE and you will get trust at them. You know how strange is when new players get into eworld in huge numbers and get party, because that in lot countries mean that the PTOers have come. Like in eSA where I am now, the night before CM electrion new party was created and full of new players, who was soon banned.

by **Coprolyth** 2013-02-27, 19:24

Well then learn to read, I never said MaryamQ was a PTO'er

I'll be glad if you quote me or something, Im quite offended when I read that from Boer Jan as well. I never said this.

Yet, there is a problem when the Belgium IRC admin are from another country and let Konrad publicly insult random eBelgian citizen. Just because they are friends, or eMarried.

I believe in democracy and that eBelgium should vote for their admin.
We feel abused by the actual system.
Konrad use his relationship with the admins in place to hurt Babyboom and disrespect us publicly, if you want to reject an eBelgian party like that, don't expect me nor my member to smile and accept the whole situation.

We did our best to improve eBelgium, in all honesty, we shouldn't go through all this.

by **Mudduck95** 2013-02-27, 19:26

Some many correct things said but sadly so many incorrect things said. But as Kitkat has said and others, before you talk bad about other people learn the whole story.

Example one, This thing about Critically and MaryamQ, (what made you choose them too?) there were others. And I know you are young here but let me help you. The PTO of the party was for the good of Belgium. It was to help get rid of a threat in congress.

Example two, This thing about people saying bad things on IRC (Konrad). That is his opinion, he has a right to that, (it is likely he might have said it nicely) but IRC is where people talk about that stuff. It happens every where and all the time.

Example three, Konrad has been around for a long time way longer then you, Coprolyth, have even thought of playing this game. He has done a lot for Belgium along with many others.

Example four, The insults and other things here, everyone thinks them but here most tell what they think, which is good in the long run. It you do not like it make your own. (as some one said)

Example five,

Side little note :
Most admins are biased.
Most admins arent even from eBelgium.

That is not true at all. ThomasRed, Critically, and Pieter have all lived in eBelgium and/or helped in many ways.
-ThomasRed, has been CP I know of atleast twice in eBelgium and he has done other things.
-Critically, has been CM I know a few times and he has been a great Minister of Defence.
-Pieter, has been an admin for as long as I can remember and has done a great job of it.

I think that is it, But before you say things look it up first.

Here is your quote about MaryamQ.

I have proves that a close friends of the IRC admins, (MaryamQ, critically) have been part of some serious PTO in the past.

by **MCKitkat** 2013-02-27, 19:34

Coprolyth wrote:Well then learn to read, I never said MaryamQ was a PTO'er

I'll be glad if you quote me or something, Im quite offended when I read that from Boer Jan as well. I never said this.

Yet, there is a problem when the Belgium IRC admin are from another country and let Konrad publicly insult random eBelgian citizen. Just because they are friends, or eMarried.

I believe in democracy and that eBelgium should vote for their admin.
We feel abused by the actual system.
Konrad use his relationship with the admins in place to hurt Babyboom and disrespect us publicly, if you want to reject an eBelgian party like that, don't expect me nor my member to smile and accept the whole situation.

We did our best to improve eBelgium, in all honesty, we shouldn't go through all this.

Look around, everyone uses his relationship, Why do you think that Jofroi is eternal congressman (he fully deserves this title. HAIL JOFROI, the eternal master of eBelgium and the eWorld), look how many of the people get jobs in the gov, get elected CP, CM, PP. Everything goes through relationships it may hurt you but that's the thruth. Democracy is a fake, no country is a real democracy.

Start a vote on it then, and let the admins have fun. Like before, the same thing will happen. Chaos please come and destroy our community. I'll praise to the mighty lords to help us overcome the disaster which will follow soon !!!

by **Coprolyth** 2013-02-27, 19:35

Mudduck95 wrote:
Example one, This thing about Critically and MaryamQ, (what made you choose them too?) there were others. And I know you are young here but let me help you. The PTO of the party was for the good of Belgium. It was to help get rid of a threat in congress.

I didnt mention a PTO of a party by them. Im not even informed. So please, don't bring that up o.o

Example two, This thing about people saying bad things on IRC (Konrad). That is his opinion, he has a right to that, (it is likely he might have said it nicely) but IRC is where people talk about that stuff. It happens every where and all the time.

I agree, as long as he stay courteous. Which is not the case.

Example five,
Side little note :
Most admins are biased.
Most admins arent even from eBelgium.

That is not true at all. ThomasRed, Critically, and Pieter have all lived in eBelgium and/or helped in many ways.
-ThomasRed, has been CP I know of atleast twice in eBelgium and he has done other things.
-Critically, has been CM I know a few times and he has been a great Minister of Defence.
-Pieter, has been an admin for as long as I can remember and has done a great job of it.

ThomasRed, I have nothing toward him.
For the other two, I don't agree. My exeperience showed otherwise

Here is your quote about MaryamQ.
I have proves that a close friends of the IRC admins, (MaryamQ, critically) have been part of some serious PTO in the past.

Im sorry if you misread but the close friend in this story is Konrad.

by **Mudduck95** 2013-02-27, 19:45

Coprolyth wrote:
Mudduck95 wrote:
Example one, This thing about Critically and MaryamQ, (what made you choose them too?) there were others. And I know you are young here but let me help you. The PTO of the party was for the good of Belgium. It was to help get rid of a threat in congress.

I didnt mention a PTO of a party by them. Im not even informed. So please, don't bring that up o.o

Example two, This thing about people saying bad things on IRC (Konrad). That is his opinion, he has a right to that, (it is likely he might have said it nicely) but IRC is where people talk about that stuff. It happens every where and all the time.

I agree, as long as he stay courteous. Which is not the case.

Example five,
Side little note :
Most admins are biased.
Most admins arent even from eBelgium.

That is not true at all. ThomasRed, Critically, and Pieter have all lived in eBelgium and/or helped in many ways.
-ThomasRed, has been CP I know of atleast twice in eBelgium and he has done other things.
-Critically, has been CM I know a few times and he has been a great Minister of Defence.
-Pieter, has been an admin for as long as I can remember and has done a great job of it.

ThomasRed, I have nothing toward him.
For the other two, I don't agree. My exeperience showed otherwise

Here is your quote about MaryamQ.
I have proves that a close friends of the IRC admins, (MaryamQ, critically) have been part of some serious PTO in the past.

Im sorry if you misread but the close friend in this story is Konrad.

As for Konrad I will talk to him about trying to be nicer with his thoughts.

Pieter and Critically have been very active. Pieter still does the things that he has too and also Critically makes sure that everything is done. Do you know what admins do?

by **Fhaemita Malodorous** 2013-02-27, 19:58

I just have to laugh about some n00b who's been playing for like a month and thinks he knows everything and can bitch about people who have been serving this country for years.

Like said get a clue and do something yourself before complaining about other and what they have done.

by **Mudduck95** 2013-02-27, 20:06

Fhaemita Malodorous wrote:I just have to laugh about some n00b who's been playing for like a month and thinks he knows everything and can bitch about people who have been serving this country for years.

Like said get a clue and do something yourself before complaining about other and what they have done.

I do agree but in such rough words. But as said before people speak their mind here. If not liked leave.

by **Critically** 2013-02-27, 20:09

I do not deny Konrad is my friend, he's even my eHusband so you shouldn't marry him :p

anyway, I don't see how that could have an effect on my job. We mostly just do the upkeep, giving people masks they need, .... It's not like we have a certain influence.

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-ThomasRed, has been CP I know of atleast twice in eBelgium and he has done other things.
-Critically, has been CM I know a few times and he has been a great Minister of Defence. sidenote: I was a great CP too :$$$$
-Pieter, has been an admin for as long as I can remember and has done a great job of it.

is so true, your experience may have showed otherwise but you were not here back then, you do not know how it was bak then.

for Konrad's case, I think he just wanted the best for USA and that's why he did a PTO attempt, I do not know the whole story but I don't think Konrad wants to harm USA as he was a Phoenix guy too.

About the admins being "imune", I think that eBelgium has certain traditions and habbits, this is one of them. And I think it's a tradition too that time to time there's someone who thinks this is unfair and tries to "break the system". They all failed.

by **Mudduck95** 2013-02-27, 23:11

Critically wrote:I do not deny Konrad is my friend, he's even my eHusband so you shouldn't marry him :p

anyway, I don't see how that could have an effect on my job. We mostly just do the upkeep, giving people masks they need, .... It's not like we have a certain influence.

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-ThomasRed, has been CP I know of atleast twice in eBelgium and he has done other things.
-Critically, has been CM I know a few times and he has been a great Minister of Defence. sidenote: I was a great CP too :$$$$
-Pieter, has been an admin for as long as I can remember and has done a great job of it.

is so true, your experience may have showed otherwise but you were not here back then, you do not know how it was bak then.

for Konrad's case, I think he just wanted the best for USA and that's why he did a PTO attempt, I do not know the whole story but I don't think Konrad wants to harm USA as he was a Phoenix guy too.

About the admins being "imune", I think that eBelgium has certain traditions and habbits, this is one of them. And I think it's a tradition too that time to time there's someone who thinks this is unfair and tries to "break the system". They all failed.

So many wish words. And yes you were a great president.

The thing with Konrad is that he is fit for Germany. And Germany and USA atmospheres are soooooo different and that is why he did not do good there.

And yes they do always fail. There is no point to keep trying. It has been this way since I can remember and btw that is a while ago.

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