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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Glenn Wauters on 2011-03-01, 19:14

I also like to have a TW with The Netherlands, that is ofcourse after France stops bullying us
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by MaryamQ on 2011-03-01, 20:46

jamster737 wrote:
Antiko wrote:elections for CP have started, we have 3 people running, Christiaanb94, Garmr and Dennis baks
we will know the result tommorow
thanks for the info dont recognise any names (not be here long Razz )

I can help you out with a couple of them.
Garmr is a former CP, best remembered here for trying to start a war with eBelgium one night when he was drunk.
Dennis baks is the former ambassador who started this thread.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by jamster737 on 2011-03-01, 20:47

MaryamQ wrote:
jamster737 wrote:
Antiko wrote:elections for CP have started, we have 3 people running, Christiaanb94, Garmr and Dennis baks
we will know the result tommorow
thanks for the info dont recognise any names (not be here long Razz )

I can help you out with a couple of them.
Garmr is a former CP, best remembered here for trying to start a war with eBelgium one night when he was drunk.
Dennis baks is the former ambassador who started this thread.

errr after that i think i like dennis better and rearly wow Garmr tryed to start a war when he was drunk
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by NLSP on 2011-03-01, 21:08

well better Garmr then the french, at least you know it only happens when he is drunk Razz
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by jamster737 on 2011-03-01, 21:17

NLSP wrote:well better Garmr then the french, at least you know it only happens when he is drunk Razz
true true the french just wait what was there excuse again it was so rubbish i forgot it Laughing
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-03-01, 21:32

lol garmr is a fratguy, so he is drunk alot Razz

anyway garmr has been cp last month, we had duo-cp.
it is posted in congress section (debate section) so that all NL citizens can vote there, all dutch citizens can write there, like all BE citizens can write in the belgium congress debate section.
It is done by open voting, because otherwise faemitha could also vote and we dont want that Razz
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Theneka on 2011-03-01, 22:36

Christiaan is not bad too. He was MoD
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Fhaemita Malodorous on 2011-03-01, 23:38

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It is done by open voting, because otherwise faemitha could also vote and we dont want that Razz

Don't think it would have matter.
I would have voted Garmr like almost everybody else even though he and me had our differences

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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-03-02, 11:47

well this is the easiest way for us.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-03-02, 23:35

i got a tempban for 3 days (might be converted into permaban)
because i joined the rebellion for a better game.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by MaryamQ on 2011-03-02, 23:51

It looks as if you are in good company, Antiko.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-03-05, 10:51

ok in case u wont see the forum, i made an post there:
the last one was deleted so here is a copy

This is what admins do with feedback from CP

I am Antiko the President of the Netherlands.
A few weeks ago i had a talk with Belea on IRC.
I talked to him that communication on the forum is really bad and that i had an idea how to change it to make things better.
I told him that it might be nice to have some forum moderators who could speak for the admins for topics which are easy to answer and shouldnt take up time from plato.
I told him that it should be for the help section.
Also i told him that it should be clear that this person should be 1 rank under plato so that plato could overrule these forum mods when they did something wrong.
Also i told him that this should only be for simple answers and that difficult questions should still be answered by plato.
Only requests like country x wants grain because in RL country x has also alot of grain production.
Because this can be replied easy with an response that erep raws do not equal RL raws.
Last i told him that it should be very clear to everybody that this was an help, so that this was a new possition where people where trained to become forum mod (something like the 3 star game mod system).


So what has happend?

The admins stole my idea and created gucio16.
Well ok i thought they are doing something with my feedback.
However then i see what this new forum mod is doing (he looks a bit young and unexperienced to be an RL player and so i can conclude that this account is simply an multi from plato).
Well this guy has been closing important messages to admins with the same automated message.
This guy has clearly stated that he wont talk with CP until 'rebellion' stops and he gets respect.
I told him that a better world begins with urself and that this is not how 'rebellion' works, once 'rebellion' start the ruling power needs to make the first steps to approach them and start conversation.
Ok lets get back on what i suggested:
- forum mod for help section and about RL-ingame mistakes, the easy answers.

What did we get?
- an forum mod who doesnt go into the help section
- an forum mod who doesnt answer and close RL-ingame mixups
- an forum mod who closes forum messages with an automated message
- an forum mod who closes posts of great importance.
- an forum mod who together with plato changes the ToS every day to their wishes, so that they can close all topics an reply with their automated message.

In a few days admins will probably announce that gucio was an suggestion from the players and was something they got as feedback.

However now u know what the real proposal was and how admins took the good suggestion and abused it.

Greetz,
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Ps.
For ur information: i was about to buy gold for RL cash (yea i was), however current situation doesnt encourage me to do it anymore,
It is sad but true.
And plz dont delete my topic again, i know i was drunk yesterday when i wrote it, but as the saying goes, drunk people tell the truth.
Also edited some stuff, because some might have been a bit offensive Razz (but that is also what drunk people do)

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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Glenn Wauters on 2011-03-05, 11:05

If I werent temp banned from the forums I would sign it :p
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by NLSP on 2011-03-05, 15:15

Antiko wrote:ok in case u wont see the forum, i made an post there:
the last one was deleted so here is a copy

This guy has clearly stated that he wont talk with CP until 'rebellion' stops and he gets respect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rtwb34Pd1k&fmt=18
someone sees similarities?
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-03-05, 21:58

ok putting it on the forum for the third time now.
btw it seems that my org isnt getting banned for this kind of stuff
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Theneka on 2011-03-06, 14:49

Cartman is EPIC. Admins are not.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by NLSP on 2011-03-06, 15:53

Theneka, similarities not differences Very Happy (there are a lot of differences)
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by ThomasRED on 2011-03-08, 03:53

http://www.erepublik.com/en/Poland/law/69061

A new polish NE on the Netherlands... :-/

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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Xgentis Lempereur on 2011-03-08, 04:07

That setle the question about a TW.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Chris Stanwick on 2011-03-08, 04:15

Not necessarily. Depending on what Poland wants with a war with NL, we might be able to join the fight as a TW for us. There is nothing in their news about the proposal, nor is there a debate link. For all we know, it could be a planned TW that just isn't being published, although sadly not likely.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-03-21, 18:27

we really liked the TW so far and we hope to continue as we did.
Its good to see that finally all has tempered a bit down (there was some heavy fighting in the beginning).
and i know all our citizens appriciate the 10% extra in strenght and rankpoints.
I speak on behalf of the Netherlands when i say we would like to continue this trainingwar.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Xgentis Lempereur on 2011-03-21, 19:00

The heavy fighting stopep because they no longuer have the gold for it lol
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Elynea on 2011-03-21, 19:47

Antiko wrote:we really liked the TW so far and we hope to continue as we did.
Its good to see that finally all has tempered a bit down (there was some heavy fighting in the beginning).
and i know all our citizens appriciate the 10% extra in strenght and rankpoints.
I speak on behalf of the Netherlands when i say we would like to continue this trainingwar.

it is a pleasure to up our rank, i killed several times Daniel parker, but i think him too Laughing

we need to keep good relationship, and i see it's a pleasure in on both side.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Ward De Bever on 2011-03-31, 10:51

Elynea wrote:we need to keep good relationship
especially in these times.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-04-02, 00:43

here an small update:
we enjoyed the training war and we hope to reactive it again in the future.
besides that, we currently having an referendum about a senate in the old form and besides that talking about how to improve the senate.
the senate is an administrative body with mostly moderator powers.
I personally called for an boycott of the referendum, because i believe referendum should only be held for utterly important cases.
in my opinion this wasnt, but majority of congress approved.
referendum is still running, but so far the quota will not be made.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by ThomasRED on 2011-04-02, 00:48

what is the quota ?

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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Ward De Bever on 2011-04-02, 21:32

ThomasRED wrote:what is the quota ?
from http://www.enetherlands.nl/viewtopic.php?f=174&t=4072 :
eNL Referendum Law
by miro86 » Tue 05 Jan 2010, 13:54

A) A referendum is a tool used by Congress and goverment to allow the citizens of the eNL to cast their votes on a matter at hand. Any member of Congress or goverment is allowed to propose a referendum but needs to start a vote regarding it in the Congress forum. Said referendum proposal needs to be accepted as per default Congress vote rulings before being carried out.

B) An eNL referendum will be held on the forum in a location accessible by all citizens. In order to vote in the referendum a citizen needs to register and be confirmed as an eNL citizen.

C) Once a eNL referendum proposal has been accepted by Congress the referendum will be opened up to the public. For validity a eNL referendum needs to meet the following criteria:
--I) An eNL Referendum runs for a period of 72 hours
--II) An eNL Referendum has a turnout threshold of at least 35% of the registered and confirmed eNL citizens (from B).
--III) An eNL Referendum requires 55% of its votes to be cast in favor it in order to be accepted. If the referendum fails to produce an offical acceptance conclusion it cannot be used as a legally binding argument.

D) The Chairman of Congress is responsible for administrating the referendum.

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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-04-03, 02:48

the referendum didnt pass.
woohoo, my boycott worked, or people just didnt care.
anyway we have new drama now.
we had a vote on the forum who should be the next cp (because of the 1 party system).
it was a tie, but some dead ingame citizens voted and some people who didnt have NL citizenship and some people who didnt have the requirement of lvl 13.
So even after that it was a tie, but some older citizens including myself had therefore decided to restart the glorious I&W, so it was decided that dennis would run for VN and christiaan for I&W.
However dennis refused.
Its unclear now what will come next, but i will keep u updated.
lots of drama and it was confirmed, i am god (so plz give me god status on the forum, thanks ^^ )
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Elynea on 2011-04-03, 11:08

I hope you will find quickly a solution Smile
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-04-03, 12:44

ok 2 guys now run for CP:
- briepe
- christiaanb94
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-04-06, 09:44

i would like to officially congratulate nlsp with his victory in the CP elections (unless they find alot of multies that voted on him).
And we hope to keep relation going.

We also have a new cp and that is a duo-cp.
dennis baks and christiaanb94 will both be cp in our country (christiaanb94 ingame)
and again i will be in the government bounce bounce bounce
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by NLSP on 2011-04-06, 11:02

thank you Smile
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Post by mittekemuis on 2011-04-06, 12:33

Good to know Antiko Very Happy
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-04-11, 01:15

we had a big shock this weekend, because somebody made some new translations with parts from the untergang.
I personally find it very funny, but some really dont like it.
it contains lots of funny things and even i am called once:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-first-ever-edutch-satire-1742945/1/20
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-04-14, 01:51

what is the deal with germany for the regions exactly?
is there a price or are u guys just getting an region for free?
and are u afraid that some polish babies might interfere and fight for belgium? because there is a big hate between poland and germany so RL hatred might take over.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by M.Leviathin on 2011-04-14, 02:19

Even if we do accidentally take over their last region, it wouldn't be difficult to take it back. A few tanks here and there and BAM. Germany is restored once again.

I don't know what Germany is getting in return, so you would have to ask someone else.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Xgentis Lempereur on 2011-04-14, 03:21

I don't know etheir.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Jofroi on 2011-04-14, 06:19

As far as I know, they don't receive much compensations. Excepted that this could avoid them to be invaded at 100% by poland ^^.

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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Glenn Wauters on 2011-04-14, 08:54

RWing regions from Belgium is easier then from Poland, thats the idea behind it
But I smell something and it stinks, I dont trust this
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-05-08, 15:04

our government, vote is still running but its almost certain going to be passed.


Government: Daniel Parker II

President: Daniel Parker (DemNL)
Vice President: broersje (DemNL)

Minister of Home Affairs: NoTie112 (DemNL)
Secretary of Media: Flando (I&W)
Secretary of Immigration: broersje (DemNL)
Secretary of Wiki: Tim Veltkamp (I&W)

Minister of Foreign Affairs: ChristiaanB94 (I&W)
Secretary of Foreign Affairs: Alexander Matteo (DemNL)

Minister of Defense: Prutser (DemNL)
Secretary of Defense: epix (I&W)

Minister of Finance: ArtemIvanov (DemNL)
Secretary of Finance: Paladijn (DemNL)

Minister of Education and Culture: Hindrik (DemNL)
Secretary of Education and Culture: Pechorin (DemNL)
Secretary of Education and Culture: Kimberly McCullouch (I&W)

Minister for Recruitment: Borovszky Botond (DemNL)
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Oboacer on 2011-05-08, 15:11

Why is the vote in Congress? I thought the game mechanics has it set that you must hold a public vote.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Boklevski on 2011-05-08, 19:16

Tonie112, Flando, Paladijn... who revived all of them? Razz
Even TV and Epix are back in the gov? eNL is back on track Smile

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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Jofroi on 2011-05-08, 20:41

Yeah, eNL is back ^^.

Epix was running for CP but lost Wink.

And by the way a nice gov, I'm sure this'll be a great month for NL.

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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-05-08, 21:09

Oboacer wrote:Why is the vote in Congress? I thought the game mechanics has it set that you must hold a public vote.

Well we have a complicated system in the netherlands.
in short we have the following rules:
- the cp appoints an formator
- the fomator makes a government and presents it at the congress
- the congress holds an forum vote about the government.


We had an way more complicated system before this, we simplefied it. Razz
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-05-19, 01:23

what is with the france NE on belgium?
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Post by ThomasRED on 2011-05-19, 01:25

According to me :

it seems a lulz proposal, but some congressmembers are tempted to vote yes, they try to NE someone for many days... They had a crisis with Slovenia few days ago because they proposed them as NE, it was voted down by after...

They had 3 options :
- MKD : fighting ONE, hard challenge, bring fun, new regions, help italy and swiss
- Slovenia : fighting undirectly ONE, not so hard challenge, real campagn, some fun, help swiss
- Belgium : no challenge, no fun, no new ressources, only 3 days and then new debate on NE
(they have pact with spain and poland for no wars)

They fear MKD, they tried Slovenia, so now a random congressmember proposed last option, eBE.

In France, the NE is not a way to attack someone, it's a goal in itself, to gain NE bonuses and the famous 0.5 str bonus daily. They could do everything for this bonus, and its ridiculous. They think that their best tanks will leave FR citizenships without NE bonuses and that they will lost thousands of str points compared to big countries.

There is a real debate in France around the NE, on how they use it, on the bad moves they made for it, etc...

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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Antiko on 2011-05-29, 00:07

ok here is our congress vote results;
5 seats for DemNL
4 seats for I&W
1 seat for CLN.

after that i have another question, why doest belgium has this many mpp?
and why the mpp with venezuela?
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Mudduck95 on 2011-05-29, 03:34

We have one with both alliances. We are doing this so that we show that we are neutral. One of them is about to run up so that is why we have three now.
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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by Jofroi on 2011-05-29, 06:48

Forget what Mudduck said :p.

We signed a pact with Venezuela because they're good friends and they helped us in the past for some of our battles.

Moreover their country has a lot of fights and this will give us a lot of fights also. while with Macedonia there wasn't enough I think.

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Re: Embassy of the Netherlands (eNL)

Post by ThomasRED on 2011-05-29, 11:11

Jofroi wrote:
We signed a pact with Venezuela because they're good friends and they helped us in the past for some of our battles.

Venezuela helped eBelgium several times since we became ally in the Entente (Hail Entente ! :3), while we were still the UNL. They also helped us, but also you, NL, to manage perfectly our training wars during one month. They were sending FAN soldiers for us to fight during our nighttime (the difference of timezone can be an asset for battles) and to win the NL RWs for example... (that's why they were also a bit surprised to see NL soldiers hitting in Portugal in Venezuelan Regions or RW). Now it's our turn to help them a little, and while our army was doing nice damages since 6,7 days for them, they asked for a mpp to officialize the links of friendship and of help between our two countries.

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